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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Topic: Joint Balcony
    Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:58am

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I've been working on this on and off for a half hour, and I'm working on the floor texture. I'm aiming for a thatched look, but it looks more like a plaid square. Any suggestions, C&C?


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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2006 at 10:45am
there is no contrast on the walls, one should be lighter than the
other. floor is nice why not add it?
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2006 at 12:12pm
what's a thatched floor?
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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2006 at 12:43pm
i tihnk he means strands of diff colour weeved together.
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2006 at 2:49pm


^With highlights^


With the ugly floor (IMO)

Choose and criticise!

Edit: 35 colors?!?! I'll fix that in a few. 22 of 'em are pre-added on the doors and their frames!

Edit2: Color reduction strikes! 11 Damage!

24 colors... and here it is!



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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2006 at 8:50pm
I know it doesn't have to but I think the floor pattern would look better if it ran the same way as the floor as opposed to 45 degrees against it.
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 7:23am

K, here's the iso floor to the best of my ability.

I'm still not very satisfied; I'm going to mess around with it a bit more later today.


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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:38am
instead of focusing on redoing the actual balcony, why not add something to it to spice it up? As it stands now, that balcony is empty and boring.
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 12:42pm
That's my next step, but I learned the hard way how bad it is to add floors last.  I'm adding a monkey in a chair with a foor on it and probably a tropical drink.

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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 3:21pm
first doors look much better IMO. perhaps more than just a monkey,
what about other stuff. add umbrella fo sure.
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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 3:59pm
maybe make that texture an area rug for one area, it's a bit overwhelming for the entire floor.

give it a cloth border and it can be a tropical beach mat!
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 4:02pm
Then what will I do for the rest?

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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 4:44pm
I'm not sure if you minded, but I did a little bit of an edit.

I think it looks "thatched" but if I were you I'd use more contrasting colors to make it interesting and anti-alias the lines.


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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 8:01pm
^^ WE'VE GONE TO PLAID!
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:49pm
whoops :P I guess it does look plaidish now but... When I added more lines it just looked more checkerboardish. *shrug*

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 10:42pm
Originally posted by Monkey 'o Doom

...I learned the hard way how bad it is to add floors last...


I always do floors and walls last. How do you know that your pressumably brown monkey will work with this floor pattern/color.
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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 10:57pm
^^ I rather think doing the floors and walls last is a rather bad idea. Doing the minor aspects first and trying to work around them is like designing a really cool bow and trying to make an entire ballgown around it, wee bit backwards. It COULD work, but it'd be easier to do the detail work last.

I've been told by reputable artists the "proper" or recommended order is as follows...

composition/layout/concept first, do a few thumbnails, get the general idea in your head
then colour scheme, figure out a pallette
then background, setup the perspective and all that (although with iso thats a little moot)
then middleground
then foreground
and then detailling

makes logical sense...
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 11:06pm
...well, I am an artist of ill-repute . I hope this thread does not go all off-topic, but to Saiklor I say this. If you create art using logic then you'll only ever be a great technician.
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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2006 at 11:33pm
^^ ooooooh start a new thread jalonso........and we shall duel wits or some such thing
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 23 March 2006 at 12:23am
How's this for thatched?




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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 23 March 2006 at 1:36am
just looks checkered here.

off topic - i never thought about doing small bits first jalonso, maybe
ill try it, and maybe thats why your works are so great.
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 23 March 2006 at 4:51am
Bah, everybody posts here while I'm asleep. Anywho, I thinlk I'll take Aleiav's approach and run with it; that one looks good.

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 25 March 2006 at 7:58am

I photoshop-tweaked the colors too.


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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 25 March 2006 at 10:54am
that background seems fairly done, now how about some monkeys
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 25 March 2006 at 3:38pm
Awesome work on the floor. :)
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 25 March 2006 at 5:44pm
Looks great so far, nice and clean, i like it.
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