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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Topic: Lion (WIP)
    Posted: 17 April 2006 at 5:40pm

Need C&C

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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2006 at 5:45pm
its the guy from madagaskar!
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2006 at 5:55pm
Pillowshade omg!!

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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2006 at 6:05pm

Originally posted by Shark

its the guy from madagaskar!

Yeah! my niece was playing the game...

It was just for fun,  my niece likes it..

 



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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2006 at 6:08pm
Add the ears too, and fix the shading, and it'll be a cool piece.

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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 18 April 2006 at 3:49am
you have a very good likeness, but yeah. the shading isnt on the same level

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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 18 April 2006 at 4:59pm

Originally posted by snader

you have a very good likeness, but yeah. the shading isnt on the same level

Great

I need to work on my shading...

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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 18 April 2006 at 5:21pm

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I need to work on my shading...

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Quote Psychotic_Carp Replybullet Posted: 18 April 2006 at 7:13pm
Shouldent he have wiskers?

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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 19 April 2006 at 5:24pm

Originally posted by Psychotic_Carp

Shouldent he have wiskers?

Yeah! I'll try and update it today...

Small update...

 

Is the shading any better ?

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Quote Bifur Replybullet Posted: 19 April 2006 at 5:37pm
why do u keep darking the area between the eyes ! xD why dont u take some ref 

I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...
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Quote MurrMan Replybullet Posted: 19 April 2006 at 5:52pm
How many colors are you using?!?! is that 22 coors? a lot of those are similar colors.. why would you need all those?
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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2006 at 1:34pm

Originally posted by MurrMan

How many colors are you using?!?! is that 22 coors? a lot of those are similar colors.. why would you need all those?

I'll try cutting down on the colors...

How would I do the mane... ?

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2006 at 1:43pm
Use a more saturated brown, darker too, and make it kinda wild. Focus on groups of hair, not individual ones. I'm kinda hair phobic myself, so take my advice on that with a grain of salt.

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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 23 April 2006 at 6:30am

Oh and is the shading any better?

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 23 April 2006 at 12:07pm
22 colors... O.O;

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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 24 April 2006 at 12:17am

Originally posted by Souly

22 colors... O.O;

I've tried to cut down on the number of colors, but it just make it look bad...

How could I make the mane look thicker ?



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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 24 April 2006 at 10:22am
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Originally posted by Souly

22 colors... O.O;

I've tried to cut down on the number of colors, but it just make it look bad...



Did you try dithering instead of adding new colors?
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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 24 April 2006 at 4:04pm

Originally posted by Souly

22 colors... O.O;

I've tried to cut down on the number of colors, but it just make it look bad...

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Did you try dithering instead of adding new colors?
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I'll give that ago...

How could I make the mane look thicker ?

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 24 April 2006 at 4:12pm
Focus on tufts of fur puffing out, and give each its own outline.

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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 24 April 2006 at 4:42pm

Originally posted by Monkey 'o Doom

Focus on tufts of fur puffing out, and give each its own outline.

Could you give me a small example of what you mean...

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 24 April 2006 at 4:43pm

Sure! I'll edit with one!

This is rough, but it does show what i mean. Use triangles of hair to show tufts etc.



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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 28 April 2006 at 12:38am
Originally posted by Monkey 'o Doom

Sure! I'll edit with one!

This is rough, but it does show what i mean. Use triangles of hair to show tufts etc.

I tried that and it just looks like a normal lion and not Alex from madagascar...

 

 

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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 28 April 2006 at 7:31am

http://www.freewebs.com/stallionspirit/alex/madagascar-dream works-alex6g.jpg

You'll have to create the shape, then chop it up a little, but still keeping the solidility. You'll have to make the light shoot out with strands of hair, to make it look like hair. Just try to replicate the reference.

Personally if there was not meant to be a resemblance to Alex from Madagascar i'd have the hair shooting out in thick spikes, but hey.

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Quote Setzer Replybullet Posted: 28 April 2006 at 7:40am
he needs eyebrows + ears =O and whiskahz~ and his eyes could be abit bigger. this is all going off of that pic larwick posted. other than that I have nothing good or bad to say :(
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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 3:59am
Originally posted by Larwick

http://www.freewebs.com/stallionspirit/alex/madagascar-dream works-alex6g.jpg

You'll have to create the shape, then chop it up a little, but still keeping the solidility. You'll have to make the light shoot out with strands of hair, to make it look like hair. Just try to replicate the reference.

Personally if there was not meant to be a resemblance to Alex from Madagascar i'd have the hair shooting out in thick spikes, but hey.

I think thats beyond my ability, but I ll try anyway... Thanks Larwick

Edit:

I don't think this is very good...

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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 4:08am

Hmm, it's too uniform. Notice on the reference pic how its lighter on the outside than on the inside? I'd do that, and use more than 2 colours.

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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 4:21am
Originally posted by Larwick

Hmm, it's too uniform. Notice on the reference pic how its lighter on the outside than on the inside? I'd do that, and use more than 2 colours.

I'll give it another go...

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Quote MurrMan Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 8:54am
if you notice the mane get darker near the face on the reference
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Quote Skull Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 9:12am


I would give the mane a more 'wild' look to it.
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 12:03pm
I think your problem is using "Mirror". Don't mirror the outline so it looks the same on both sides, because no one's face is shaded/looks the same completely on both sides. I'd try giving the mae a bit more variation. 
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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 27 March 2008 at 11:27am
Small update!! no mane yet >_<
 
 
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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 27 March 2008 at 9:17pm
Hi. I edited this (mostly just the palette):



The biggest problems with it at the moment have to do with the palette: very low contrast and a lack of saturation. These are essential for making something charming and cartoon-y.

The other major problem is banding. You should read up on it and avoid it at all costs. In short, it's where you have single-pixel lines of hugged buffer shades. It creates 'bands' of jagged color. The contrast is pretty low here, so they don't really stick out, but it's especially prevalent on the forehead and nose. If this doesn't make sense please let me know and I'll try to explain better.

I'm personally not a big fan of all the dithering. I'm not generally a hardcore anti-ditherist, I just don't think it suits this piece (I don't think it suits many cartoon-y pieces). You of course may disagree and that's cool. Regardless, though, I would make an attempt to reduce your palette. The color count isn't unreasonable, I just think tighter shading with fewer colors would enhance the piece.

EDIT: I just noticed I accidentally gave him dog ears :P

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Quote Fugitive Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2008 at 1:33am
Thanks for the help Hatch 
 
It looks a lot better now!!
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2008 at 10:38am
its all about contrast. notice that the point of having a darker mane around the face is to make it pop-out more and avoid it from blending with the mane itself(due them being made of the same color)

and avoid overdithering at all cost.
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