Pixel Joint Forum: the current PJ image ranking system is so broken

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Setzer
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Topic: the current PJ image ranking system is so broken
Posted: 23 August 2006 at 12:51pm

images that are ranked high are seen the most [therefore they get even more ratings; so theres no chance of them falling down]
I've no real suggestions how to fix it, but ens made me post it.

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Ensellitis
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Posted: 23 August 2006 at 1:51pm

hmm, perhaps we should have better options to choose how they are sorted?

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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.

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Larwick
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Posted: 23 August 2006 at 2:13pm

Perhaps an average scoring system aswel, but only those who have been rated at least (eg.) 10 times are placed into the list (to stop those only voted once with max stars from going to the top of the list). Might not work with the varied rating amounts though.

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neota
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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 9:31pm

I suggest a formula like this:

normal = 52 * 3 (3 years)
age = (the number of weeks from now) / normal
rank = rating - (age * rating)

That will tend to rank down things over time. after three years, they will not be able to achieve the same rank as a just-submitted pixel art.

absolutely.

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eghost
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 7:52am

I dunno...I think the Hall of Fame should still be accessible, but treat it more like a showcase of works...In other words, after a year (or two) turn off the ability to rank the piece...That should help the newer pieces compete with several of the older masterpieces...

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jalonso
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 10:27am

hmmm, deserving new pieces seem to compete OK to me. Many pieces on page 1 of the Hall of Fame are quite new. It would be unfair to take away rank ability from any piece since they are as good as when they were made/submitted. New votes for a piece only come from new members, so its new to them. Breaking up into some sort of "retired piece" sub category seems unfair to me. I say make game mockups of over dithered super marios riding dragons, ftw

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Brian the Great
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 11:03am

The growth of PJ also makes it that more people go to the New Pieces section everyday, thus new pieces get rated more than old ones.

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Setzer Commander Joined: 18 December 2016 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 780	Topic: the current PJ image ranking system is so broken Posted: 23 August 2006 at 12:51pm
	images that are ranked high are seen the most [therefore they get even more ratings; so theres no chance of them falling down] I've no real suggestions how to fix it, but ens made me post it.

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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 23 August 2006 at 1:51pm
	hmm, perhaps we should have better options to choose how they are sorted?
	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Larwick Commander Joined: 18 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4015	Posted: 23 August 2006 at 2:13pm
	Perhaps an average scoring system aswel, but only those who have been rated at least (eg.) 10 times are placed into the list (to stop those only voted once with max stars from going to the top of the list). Might not work with the varied rating amounts though.

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neota Commander Joined: 27 November 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 158	Posted: 24 August 2006 at 9:31pm
	I suggest a formula like this: normal = 52 * 3 (3 years) age = (the number of weeks from now) / normal rank = rating - (age * rating) That will tend to rank down things over time. after three years, they will not be able to achieve the same rank as a just-submitted pixel art.
	absolutely.
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eghost Midshipman Joined: 19 June 2018 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 99	Posted: 25 August 2006 at 7:52am
	I dunno...I think the Hall of Fame should still be accessible, but treat it more like a showcase of works...In other words, after a year (or two) turn off the ability to rank the piece...That should help the newer pieces compete with several of the older masterpieces...
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jalonso Admiral Joined: 29 November 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13537	Posted: 25 August 2006 at 10:27am
	hmmm, deserving new pieces seem to compete OK to me. Many pieces on page 1 of the Hall of Fame are quite new. It would be unfair to take away rank ability from any piece since they are as good as when they were made/submitted. New votes for a piece only come from new members, so its new to them. Breaking up into some sort of "retired piece" sub category seems unfair to me. I say make game mockups of over dithered super marios riding dragons, ftw
	PJs FAQ <•> Sticky Reads
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Brian the Great Commander RED! Joined: 03 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2221	Posted: 25 August 2006 at 11:03am
	The growth of PJ also makes it that more people go to the New Pieces section everyday, thus new pieces get rated more than old ones.

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