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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Topic: Advice on kill elmo
    Posted: 27 January 2007 at 9:31pm
 teel me whats wrong and how to improve elmo





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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 27 January 2007 at 10:05pm
um, improve what?  it helps to show what you are talking about
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Quote Skull Replybullet Posted: 28 January 2007 at 5:10am
Something about Elmo in his/her gallery.. but ... I just can't tell, since it requires revision.
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 28 January 2007 at 5:35am
  this?  oh man there's so many things you could do!  actually, anything you do will probably make this a teensy bit better...  anywho, some suggestions:
 
- dont use a white background, either make a scene or make it transparent.
- why a stick figure?  the gallery is for your best finished and refined pieces, don't tell me that the best you can do is a stick figure. 
- the red thing looks more like a robot than elmo to be honest, work from references and maybe do a bigger version (like 100x100) so you could fit enough details in without overwhelming yourself.
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Quote Lawrence Replybullet Posted: 28 January 2007 at 10:55am
Not to be rude, but my advice is to spend more time practicing you drawing skills.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 28 January 2007 at 11:12am
Originally posted by Lawrence

Not to be rude, but my advice is to spend more time practicing you drawing skills.


my thoughts exactly
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 28 January 2007 at 1:56pm
How about redo it and make the man actually look like a man and elmo actually look like elmo?

Start with making the man more than a stick figure and looking at an elmo picture to see a glimpse of what elmo looks like. For one, elmo's eyes are on the top of his head.
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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:43pm
O.k. Aleiav i put the eyes on top, and slaped on some pants, but i did not like the eyes that way, but here you go anyway 

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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:54pm
soory it took so long to get back to all u, i'm am the best exaple of a noob!
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 01 February 2007 at 7:25am
example*

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 01 February 2007 at 12:26pm
http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/gallery.php?user=seakingelebit&id=1
 
Be careful with your links.
 
You could use to decrease the piece's saturation and the man needs a body and arms. The ground is very strange and I can't tell what it's representing. Overall you need more detail and better color choices as well as more realistic and interesting shapes and form. I think you could really use a basic grounding in anatomy and drawing as well as color theory and the like. Pixel art requires strength and techniques best developed in other media and that's exactly what you're lacking.

RPG is numberwang.
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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 01 February 2007 at 5:14pm
http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/4439370338Kill_Elmo.PNG real man a paloza, and if you u got a problem  with green shirts don't look at this art and the ground is a street now +i made elmo more Elmoish (if that is a word) 
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 01 February 2007 at 8:33pm
Still doesn't look like elmo. The eyes are ON TOP of elmo's head. Literally.
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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 8:39am
sirously very top? show how it would be done that way
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:11am


seriously.  if you re going to do art, you need to learn how to use and find references.  while you are at it, check out some pixel art tutorials and some basic art tutorials.  you need to grasp the basic concepts of art before you can create art, and i don't believe you have yet to grasp them.
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:36am

Ok I wasn't going to say it, but the whole concept of killing a muppet is something a 10 year old would be amused with. I don't think annyone beyond the age of 10 thinks killing puppets makes one macho.

You don't have to like anyone's art and in my opinion killing a muppet is just lame.
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Quote MadMage Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:45am
Maybe seakingelebit has a project of muppet mass-murdering... I say let him do whatever he pleases!
 
However, make a more detailled scene... Maybe bigger, with shadow effects (why not a small animation... It would look nice), a BG... I am sure you can improve it with a little time and effort. Just dont get discouraged. 

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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:57am
yeah ive been killin' muppets for as long as i can remember, the other day i made big bird take a knife to the cheat whahahahahahahhaahhahahhahah, oh and um my friend is 17 and he is still killing muppets
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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 4:48pm
I can not figure out how to turn gales into gifs, and i made it animated
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:25pm
don't worry about animation yet, because if it sucks to begin with, the animation isn't going to make it any better.
 
you really need to get it down first. 
You  need to make the man look like a man, and elmo like
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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:34pm
o.k. (but just so you know the animated version rocks) what doi need for the man a gut, what,I NEED SPECIFICS, im just not a big picture guy.
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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:55pm
perhaps just some motivation and inspiration....

oh noes! Elmo lost his head and it landed on a tree branch!

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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:59pm

well... we can't tell you exactly where to put each pixel, so here's a little visual to give you some ideas about the differences between a stick figure, and a human.

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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:49pm
Elmo has sorta been updated, i think he is much more Elmoish, it made a real difference. http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5544288350Kill_Elmo.PNG

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:53pm
It's better, but you need to give it more interesting features and add in the elmoish details that make the character. Don't be afraid to break away from the perfectly side-on view; it's holding you back more than anything else at this point, aside from the lack of shading. I suggest turning him toward the viewer slightly and increasing the size to something like 2x that you have now. It may seem overwhelming but rendering a likeness at this size is hard even for pixel artists with a lot more experience than you have right now.

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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:53pm
I guess if he has to be a real human, he has to be bigger. I guess i'll have to start from scratch. 
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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:18pm

what do you mean turn him twards the viewer?



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Quote flaber Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:46pm
HAHAHAHA
this is priceless
when i saw you image i immediatly started laughing. im soo glad to see there are still people out there who are amused with killing muppets.
its genius. props to you.

keep at it.
and about your friend being 17 and still likeing it, its totally believable. im 17 and cant seem to get enough of this...
keep plugging away - dont worry about what the others have you say, your skills are good as is :)
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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:51pm
  wait guys, i'm Super super super super super super super super super, sorry i don't know if i can finish this, but i will pick back up on it another time.it is just to much, mabey when i more experienced...







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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:59pm
you don't have to apologize for not being the best pixel artist in the world. No one is. And no one gets it quickly.

Why don't you try some tutorials first? That might give you an idea of where to start. There are plenty in the Resources and Support forums, and I can't pimp st0ven's tutorials here enough.
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Quote seakingelebit Replybullet Posted: 03 February 2007 at 12:59pm
the reson i said sorry is because you helped so much.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 03 February 2007 at 4:10pm
No worries, save this thread to your favourites so you can go back to it and learn from any mistakes you may have made. Everything's a learning experience. Good luck in your next pieces.
 
(And geez you guys are harsh sometimes)
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