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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 1:29pm
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Damn 31 colours in that o.O?! thats alot   You can easily delete some grey tones and nearly similar colour and it will still look good. I am sure you can delete atleast 10 colours.      
Surt already stated that AND did an edit: 
Originally posted by surt

You can easily cut down colours tremendously.
Here's a 14 colour edit:

 
Volcom. Concentrate on cutting down on your colors.
It will help you a lot.
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 1:38pm
Surt's edit looks like dark hell on a sunny day. Why would it help me? I like it how it is and i really don't need anymore colors. Unless you insist on something else.
 
 
 


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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 1:43pm
You need FEWER colors. You can use different colors than Surt, but nonetheless it is a technically good edit that shows how you can eliminate colors. You have 32; he has 14. Maybe you don't like his CHOICES, but the NUMBER is better. 32 colors for what you have is ridiculous.

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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 2:03pm
 
 
25 colors. Is that still rediculous? Thanks, sorry for being an idiot


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Quote Kren Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 2:11pm
I managed to remove ten colourse without deleting how it looks. IMO the number of colours doesn't matter as long as they are used in a good way. But this is not the case, for example the darker 1P tone is a colour that you can delete with the darker pikachu yellow colour, and pikachu thunderbolt (the one in kirby) can be in only one colour because the difference between both colour is really small to actually see a difference. You  can also delete the darkest cloud colour(the one down of kirby ), hmm you also have two light brick colour one grey and another one blue you can replace the lighter blue colour with the grey one and you will not see the difference.   oh you need to make the two kirby face more readably by making the grey be darker( use the outline of those kirby for that)
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 2:34pm
 
19 colors....huge update. Since i went done lots i might make a light brown shade than that other color cuz its sorta odd.
 
Tiny edit:
 
20 colors.
 
-i have a question...should i use the colors i have to use or keep it like this?


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Quote E-Bomb Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 2:37pm
You still need to completely redo the background. Remember, MOUNTAINS!
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 2:52pm
 
this any good?
 
Can i turn this in on Sunday or it has to be before Sunday?


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Quote Delfos Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 3:23pm
You have until Sunday At Midnight (i think)

You're doing it fine. it's an amazing improvement. Just compare this last one with your first one. It's seems made by to different persons!

I would give more contrast between the bright kirby colour an his shadow. i like the colours on your avatr more. And make some AA in the heart (use the kyrby's shadow, don't create another colour)

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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 3:24pm
Before 12:00 Sunday, PJ time.
Check the clock at the homepage.
 
For the peice. Very nice update  Use some of those greys you have in the mountains. Use the browns in the platform Pikachu is standing on. Pikachu could have some of that brown, and that would knock it back down to 19 colors. 
 
The heart container should be symmetrical and have a white outline:
 
Pikachus tail looks bent up and weird. Also you may want to show that pikachu cast that spark somehow.
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Quote Delfos Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 3:38pm
Oh.. i thought the heart had a "jewel" effect... it's not a bad idea xD
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Quote AtomicMushroom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 4:35pm
Just a few things I see:
 
Pikachu's anatomy looks off to me. I would look at some ref pics just as you did with kirby.
 
Shade Pikachu using the same light source you did with kirby. (meaning shade his chest and face)
 
The cloud under kirby looks like a platform that he's standing on.
 
The shadows cast by the orange platforms are inaccurate. Reverse their angle. 
 
Make the impact effect more prominent/dramatic. (and maybe even add a second lightsource highlight on pikachu and kirby caused by the effects.) 
 
Remember to do these too.
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 4:58pm
dude the platforms are not inaccurate...the lightsource is above slightly to the right. Is anything shaded differently? I will do #2.
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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 5:05pm
From what I see they are. Right now everything is lit above but the shadow is being cast to the left...
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 5:10pm
and the platforms are being cast to the left....
 
update:
 
i wouldn't call it a lightsource cuz thats not how it is the game...but its not bad.
 
Ill post later...but i made blocks so lightsource is coming from top slight right.


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Quote AtomicMushroom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 5:47pm
I said they were inaccurate because kirby was shaded as if the light source came from top-left, contradicting to the way the shadows were cast.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 5:49pm
Remember to be patient, k.
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 6:09pm

im being patient....no more crits jal? Just wise stuff lol...jk.

Mushroom, hes not shaded like that anymore.
 
i think this is a good days work. Hopefully it will be really nice by 12:00 PM tomarrow. The days not over yet though, more crits if any
 
-any of you guys think i have a chance of 1 vote? that would be awesome...(not including me lol). Even though i have an entire days work ahead on this piece which could be huge or small.


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 6:11pm
I think others are helping better and more than I am for this project.
I am keeping an eye on it tho
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 6:16pm
yep...your just sipping your beer as you watch me improve this step by step. I had no doubt you had been watching and been temped to post...
 
anyone wanna answer my question?
 
I wanted to sumbmit that:
 
  lol big diff no?


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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 6:31pm
remove the smile in kirby's icon.
I ate leel's babies
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 6:40pm
 
 
made low area even lower. Added crate, tried shading with blue and looked nice, did same with platforms on tower


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 6:55pm
k, I got a crit for you, hehe.
See the mountains. Notice the is jaggy? Use the darkest blue or the medium grey to AA that a little. Just to smooth it out a little bit.


ps: some people vote based on skill, technique and progress so you should get some to vote. Don't worry about stuff like that tho. Your Mom likes you, I like you...what else do you need ;)
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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 7:03pm
"Notice the is jaggy" lol
*Ahem* Moving on. 
Actually the mountains should be lighter: as things recede they get lighter and bluer, no?
Remove the pink pixel that is on top of the kirby icon's head.
Change the darker yellow to an orange color. 
Use a lighter blue to highlight the wooden platforms.
I liked the original text, I could see it and it looked nice.
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 7:28pm
 
i old text looked horrid to me lol...Maybe ill make the current one 2px instead of one.
 
Jal, didn't you mean light shade to AA?
 
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 7:52pm
I think the crate is shaded and colored a bit strangely for wood; I made an edit to show what palette choices I would use and to show one option of adding wood grain. Also, you can get rid of your yellow used on the 1P text and replace all instances of it with the yellow used on pikachu's shadows, and things should look better as well as use one color less.
 
The edit:
 
You could probably use the highlight color of the crate on the platforms too if they're supposed to be brown.

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Quote E-Bomb Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 8:04am
Do what the monkey said. The mountains look great, and so does the rest of the sky. The platforms look weird, because they're supposed to be orange. Pikachu's tail: FIX IT! Try to add the green parts to the stage. The bricks on the wall with the orange platforms should be the same as the ones at the bottom. Pikachu's head looks a bit odd, and Kirby's lives look weird.
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:03am
 
I was an idiot not to fix arrow and text before. I had it the same, then changed pikachu's contrast and forgot to change. Thanks for edit, grain/yellow look is tons better.
 
E-Bomb, the the brick on the tower are not supposed to be the same cuz you don't stand on it...(so it has little contrast, differing from the platforms and the ground). I didnt say this... i think it was AtomicMushroom
 
What do you mean by adding green parts to stage? Fixed basically everything both u said except green thing and tower (which is not supposed to be fixed).
 
 
----I've tried thinking hard on how making Kirby's icon look better...pillowshade or anything. Any ideas or suggestions?
 
C&C!


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Quote E-Bomb Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:10am
*Smacks forehead* Sorry, I guess I'm being vague. I meant to change the color of the bricks on the bottom that are UNDER the ones you stand on. Sorry if I was unclear.

As for green:


See the greenness of the castle?
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:30am
dude, i know what you meant...your still standing on the ones under. The mountains are colored the same as tower... Its just a lighter cuz it shows its not directly part of the scene and you dont stand on it...just the platforms.
 
 
EDIT: made kirby icons look better
 
 


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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:48am
Here's an edit i did(of the picture I found in the gallery):
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:52am
and mine too


added:
•Some tone to the platform with the yellows
•New yellow for Pikachu
•Item color
•mountain
•the fire of electricity of whatever that is.
• ears on PIk and eyes on Kirby
•1P in gray not yellow


chop, chop


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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:52am
nice, except if you ever watched pokemon or played this game i'm positive he dosn't let out blue sparks but yellow. Icon edit on Kirby is nice...i gotta add the cheacks on mine.
 
Your Pikachu is Smaller and more 'pikachu'. (but when i comes to size kirby and pikachu are basically the same in hight
 
 
Holy crud Jal, nice man. Tired of that beer? I love the impact, i will surly do something similar and with kirby to...(ofcourse as a ref.). The orange light on the blocks...i might only do something similar under the action, or i would put it on the tower blocks also.


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:56am
Remember this is a 2D version of a 3D game not a clone.
he sparks are not blue that is 'glow' :p

Your version is a tiled mockup so the clouds should be copy/pasted not all unique.


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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 11:02am
They are still about the same height
And anyone that watched the anime/played the game knows that pikachu's ears are black and the tail is brown at the end
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 11:15am
 
we'll its similar...on the clouds, i made 2nd top row all identicle. for the top, i think since they are big maybe they should be a bit diff. Unless you insist it should really be identicle.
 
I only shaded blocks were action was...looks cool to me.
 
EDIT: 16 colors
 
 


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 11:17am
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 11:26am
Your idea . What now? Any more crit anyone.
 
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but im still not done, 9 hours left


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Quote E-Bomb Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 12:36pm

That's what you should do with the bottom blocks. I think they look funky the way you had them.
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Quote Kren Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 1:41pm
hmm I would make the 0% and the 210% bigger since right now It is really hard to understand it, same goes for the 1P and 2P. You should AA the heart and improve the white outline since it is jaggy
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 4:23pm
 
better? 1P and 2P are supposed to be skinny. This is my last edit, thanks for help everyone
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