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    Posted: 03 August 2005 at 1:43pm

Today is a very sad day for me... after a few back and forths it was clear that "truth" would have to be the first member banned from this forum.  I honestly am not happy about it at all.  There's a lot of members here that have had some pretty good spats with people getting their feelings hurt, but that's OK as long as it can be worked out. Some misundertandings are to be expected on any forum.  

Unfortunately, I just couldn't see any positive outcome when dealing with "truth".  He pissed off a lot of people (including me) in a short amount of time and repeated attempts to reason with him seemed to just make the situation worse. 

I don't take banning a member lightly and I hope you all understand our perspective. If you feel we've been too hasty or are just plain wrong please read through truth's posts and post your thoughts here.

This forum is supposed to be fun!!!

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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 1:51pm

As I said before, I'm just glad we took care of the situation promptly and efficiently as we did. This could've gone on for months with a lesser leader. Sad that he had to name himself "Truth" ... such an irony. The truth was he wasn't truthful enough with himself to see the error of his ways.

And so we move onwards.

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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 3:21pm
How are you gonna stop the guy re-registering under a different
name, as long as he isn't stupid enough to call himself "truth2".
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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 3:26pm
Shark, you can ban there IP address. Thats probobly what sedge did. I am gald you did. He was a pain in my you know what.
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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 3:33pm
Good riddance. Glad you nipped him/her in the bud, for had you not, many-a-war would have surely followed.
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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 3:37pm

There ARE ways to get around an IP ban, aren't there? Like... change your IP address? I'm probably completely wrong, but meh.

The only thing that saddens me about his being banned is that I never got to throw my two cents' worth of screaming at him. He was just a dude with very strong moral and social opinions and an issue or two that had to do with control. Banning him was probably the right thing to do, PJ is not a place to whine about your ideals or stab those of others, but a fun time happy place of magical fairy-like joy, peace, and.. wait, nevermind. I'll just stick with fun.

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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 3:44pm
I, like Luke, do not agree with banning someone unless it absolutely calls for it.  Such as illegal activity, threatening, or blatent hostility.  Usually in my forums it could be rectified very quickly and no banning would be needed, usually it turned out to be a misunderstanding or a lapse of thinking. 

However, after reading all of the posts by "truth," it was pointed out to him several times that he basically needs to sit back, relax, and think before you type.  But he still continued with his lies and his hostility.  So even though banning is a last resort thing to me, this banning was completely justified.

Perhaps after some time, he could be re-invited to join the forum, but on a probationary status, "one strike and your out" kind of thing.  But I doubt even that would cause anything to be different from this time.

Good judgment call, Luke. 
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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by Saboteur

There ARE ways to get around an IP ban, aren't there? Like... change your IP address? I'm probably completely wrong, but meh.



Yes, you are wrong, you are an idiot!!!  ( Just kidding of course. I kid, I kid!) You can't change your IP address unless you move or go to a different computer.  You can mask it or spoof it, but not change it.

Originally posted by Saboteur


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The only thing that saddens me about his being banned is that I never got to throw my two cents' worth of screaming at him.

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Yeah, I felt the same way, but after leaving just one post, then seeing how he responded to other posts were just like throwing gas on the fire, I decided I would sit back and wait for Ol' Blinky or Monkey Man take care of him. 


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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 4:22pm
Saboteur, why dont u still throw ur two cents worth of screaming at
him, it will make u feel better! He may even see one day on a
computer that has a different ip
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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 4:39pm

Originally posted by pixelblink

 "Truth" ... such an irony. The truth was he wasn't truthful enough with himself to see the error of his ways.

Exactly what I was thinking...

Well he was making a lot of topics go off the main idea so I'm glad he won't bother us anymore. And I'm pretty sure he won't because who would want to waste their time only arguing on forums, unless he doesn't have a life...

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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 6:00pm
Wow truth got snuffed out quick. A good call in my opinion. Not because people think truth is a dick, of which I am in complete agreeance, but because truth just completely went off topic and crapped on about things that simple have no place in this forum. Constantly. Over and over. So I think it was a good call.
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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 9:01pm

Originally posted by Ensellitis


Yes, you are wrong, you are an idiot!!!  ( Just kidding of course. I kid, I kid!) You can't change your IP address unless you move or go to a different computer.  You can mask it or spoof it, but not change it.

 

only cable user tend to keep the same IP address, mine changes every time I rest my DSL modem or reconnect. Dial ups pretty much the same.

I missed what he (truth) did

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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 9:57pm

Ensellitis: Haha, I figured I was wrong, somehow. In messing around with trying to get ye ole damn Xbox hooked up wireless, I found a way to change my computer's IP. Apparently that's not the same thing.

Shark: its a bunch less fun to yell when he prolly won't see it for a long time, plus it would be kinda awkward. And the guy was really beyond reasoning.

I doubt he'll try to come back, he came here with no wholesome purpose, banning him will not have phased the guy at all. He'll probably continue rampaging about unfortunate forums everywhere.

Maybe.

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bullet Posted: 03 August 2005 at 11:17pm

Originally posted by EyeCraft

Wow truth got snuffed out quick. A good call in my opinion. Not because people think truth is a dick, of which I am in complete agreeance, but because truth just completely went off topic and crapped on about things that simple have no place in this forum. Constantly. Over and over. So I think it was a good call.

I think this is what was the most destructive. A little belligerence is tolerable as long as it isn't dragging real threads down. 

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bullet Posted: 04 August 2005 at 1:35am
OH my GOD thank you. The only post I saw from him was the community totem pole post where he arrogantly accused so-lou of using filters. That really pissed me off. Then I went and searched his name and found all kinds of posts by him. Oh my god.. that guy is the most negative serious person ever. I wonder if he has any real life friends. It seemed like every single post he made, he either insulted someone, had very malicious opinions, or had a very negative thing to say.. god he like really needs to lighten up. Why is it that pixeljoint always attracts the most dramatic negative people. (no offence saiklor)  But truth was just so damn annoying. And he kept on babbling about murders and criminals and stuff. God.. what a prude.

People need to LIGHTEN UP around these parts, we all suffer enough negatism throughout school/work and when we come home we dont want to argue and be badgered on the internet. We come to PJ to learn and have fun.

I'm glad truth was banned.. he didn't help the community in any way at all.

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bullet Posted: 04 August 2005 at 2:16am
well someone got there two cents worth then
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bullet Posted: 04 August 2005 at 5:39am

That is so bizarre that he said that about my Jack totem - in a weird way he complimented me.  I don't even exactly know what is a 'filter' anyway, and don't think there is one in MS FRIGGIN PAINT. I only use Adobe photoshop to convert bmps to gifs, other than that it's just me and my mouse in Paint.

 

I wasn't at all offended or anything, because it's not like he was calling my stuff bad, just being very ignorant and making outlandish, untruthful statements.  The guy was weird.

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bullet Posted: 04 August 2005 at 6:08am
I would take it as a compliment, btw filters are an effect in photoshop
u can use to make stuff look different, he was a bit of an idiot he did
start one topic in community collabs but he was the only one to reply
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bullet Posted: 04 August 2005 at 10:15am
hiya - fengs was away for some fun but now im bak!

well maybe he was an arse - but he was also part of the family :-(
do me a favour and give him a 2nd chance.

its a Family Feng ya no?
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bullet Posted: 04 August 2005 at 10:33am
Originally posted by dr.feng


well maybe he was an arse - but he was also part of the family :-(
do me a favour and give him a 2nd chance.


Please don't.

His banning was justified.
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bullet Posted: 06 August 2005 at 3:49pm
Well, I definitely got my 2 cents. I'm just glad to see him gone.
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bullet Posted: 09 August 2005 at 11:26am
Dunno who that was since I don't really post on the PJ forums, but if his removal helps to maintain peace and balance, then I'm all for it. It's a shame when things like this have to happen, but things do as they do.
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bullet Posted: 14 August 2005 at 10:13am
..might I now guess why he was banned? Calling stuff trash and accusing people of being devil worshippers? He seems to be one of those extremists; if so he's spreading his hate into comments on the site..
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bullet Posted: 14 August 2005 at 11:53am
we are all about the love at this site. If you wanna be a hater go find a new home. Of course, we all have our off days too. This guy was just a definite extremist, DarkAuron. It was like talking to a brick wall.
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bullet Posted: 14 August 2005 at 2:30pm
He is pissing me off in the galleries now with his unnecessary comments...  He should get a sitewide ban...
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bullet Posted: 14 August 2005 at 9:34pm
Whoever deleted the comments that I 'interacted' with truth in I'd like to thank, as I knew things would get messy. And yes, he probably needs to banned from pixeljoint.. period. *sigh* What a waste of life
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bullet Posted: 15 August 2005 at 3:24am
Ah I see that's the one... (he got crazy with ensellitis over one of my pics - or rather ensellitis' comment on it...)

People these days...
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bullet Posted: 15 August 2005 at 10:00am
I tried to be civil with that ass:
" If you don't like my views, opinions, or art in any way, please just ignore what I say then, please.  Your views differ from mine, and I do not wish to have yours forcibly pressed upon me or me called names because you don't agree with me.

Thank you."

I get this reply:
"That was a nice private message, but I thought you told me to "get a life". Therefore, if you tell me to get a life and posted a definition of the term "joke" toward me, you are the one who began talking to me and forcibly pressing views upon me, seeing as how it wasn't even your pixel art we were commenting in.

At any rate, some things are not "views", but fact--violence and torture, death, murder, etc. as humorous or nonserious/nonsatiric/noninformative is totally not art."

God he is a f**k.  He replied to a comment I made over a month ago, how to hell did I begin.  He is so f**king ignorant to actually think that his views are fact. 

I really hope that a site wide ban can be put into place, I can't stand this asshole one bit longer.




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bullet Posted: 15 August 2005 at 10:33am

probably got a bad family thing, bullied at school, lack of talent, and the thing that makes people of 12 think they are invincible....

hell get over it..


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bullet Posted: 15 August 2005 at 12:22pm
K, I think this thread has kind of run its course.  Thanks for all your thoughts on the matter. I really do appreciate it.
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