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Quote jalonso Replybullet Topic: >(")< cathedral
    Posted: 23 June 2006 at 8:24pm
On to the next BG for the fighting game. This time the theme is Gothic. This is my first draft. I went with the obvious Notre Dame Cathedral for inspiration. Like the other BGs this will have a monochromatic color for the background. I may end up with purple which was my first thought but experimented with gold instead? The layers that will be seperated for the parralex effect are show in gradating shades of gold. The grey area is the fixed fighting platforms. c+c most welcome.

EDIT: This time I made lineart first, very rare for me.




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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 23 June 2006 at 8:26pm
I loove the lines, but the stained glass is too saturated and looks like static. KUTGW, >('')<

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 23 June 2006 at 8:46pm
Should have mentioned that on my post MoD :/
That is just static noise. I made that to find the right shade of gold and purples to use on this. I will redraw all the windows later on. I do think they will remain somewhat saturated to achieve the stained glass look, tho not this much.

EDIT: What I would really like to know now is if this is THE right setting or should it be something else, calling ALL emos


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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 23 June 2006 at 8:46pm
why not try some contrast?  i understand you are still a n00b jalonso, so it may be hard at first, you can do it though.  keep practicing.
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Quote CDI Replybullet Posted: 23 June 2006 at 8:47pm
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 4:13am
Jalonso, looks great. I'm loving what you're doing with the parralex effect. I really do like the gold, but perhaps purple and blue tones would give it a colder, more gothark feel. It also seems like the platforms are in the wrong perspective compared to the rest... perhaps? Anyway, great start.
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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 5:06pm
please please make the church's windows display something substantial, instead of spraycanning

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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 5:28pm
Great start. I love the detail you have going on the cathedrals, especially since you've definately got the correct arcitecture (sp?), flying buttresses and all. XD

I agree that the window is saturated too much, which you probably have already realized.

I think this would look cool in a greyscale version with some rain animation. :) Not to mention some wicked gargoyles. (But it's going to look awesome regardless because you kick ass at these backgrounds)

Otherwise, nice start. You're doing really awesomely on these backgrounds. Can't wait to see how it turns out! :)
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 7:01pm
I think the gold color is not gothic enough so I've gone with my first instict of blue/purple. right?

Lar, the perpective thing I will solve with sculptures and trees, used to hide the obvious change yet maintain some distance.


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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 7:24pm
OOOH. YES.

Fantastic update. Quite an intimidating feel to it now.

And i actually sillilly didn't picture the foreground-background connecting to the fighting platforms that way... guh *slaps self slightly*
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 7:27pm

I think, quite honestly, that it would take me an entire, painstaking week to acheive even one step of one of your WIPS.

You're insane. I don't care if anything is physically impossible in it; I don't care to look any further than at its surface awesomeness.

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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 7:50pm

Originally posted by jalonso

I think the gold color is not gothic enough so I've gone with my first instict of blue/purple. right?

Lar, the perpective thing I will solve with sculptures and trees, used to hide the obvious change yet maintain some distance.


I deem this art goth enough.

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Quote Illusion Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by jalonso

I think the gold color is not gothic enough so I've gone with my first instict of blue/purple. right?

Lar, the perpective thing I will solve with sculptures and trees, used to hide the obvious change yet maintain some distance.



Way better man, there is more contrast on this piece and i can see all the details without hurting the eyes!
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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 9:45pm

Originally posted by jalonso

I think the gold color is not gothic enough so I've gone with my first instict of blue/purple. right?

Lar, the perpective thing I will solve with sculptures and trees, used to hide the obvious change yet maintain some distance.


Hmm, much better color choice and a great update. I, however, preferred the original's stained glass windows. They seemed to almost have the perfect saturation. It's probably just me, though.

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Quote Rodder Replybullet Posted: 24 June 2006 at 9:59pm
I think the original glass is too bright, and this update is just a bit too dull, the glass almost matches the sidewalk. I think it would work better if you only upped the saturation of the red pixels, to over take the blue. Red will also enhance the goth vibe.

Other than that your update is awesome!
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 25 June 2006 at 5:07am
I don't believe however, that the glass would glow on a dark night, unless there was a light on inside the cathedral, well then the stained glass would be much lighter, not just slightly. Although they do seemed unfinished at the moment, in terms that the walls have highlights and yet the glass does not. I'm sure you already knew this though... lawl.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 25 June 2006 at 6:17am
Originally posted by jalonso

I think the gold color is not gothic enough so I've gone with my first instict of blue/purple. right?

Lar, the perpective thing I will solve with sculptures and trees, used to hide the obvious change yet maintain some distance.




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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 25 June 2006 at 9:59am
Shark just creamed ensellitis' self also
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 25 June 2006 at 10:14pm
Major update. seems the stained glass was leading to trouble. I really did'nt like the whole church thing and I think I came up with a better scene. It's a gothic estate viewed from the gardens. How is it now.


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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 25 June 2006 at 10:18pm
Shaping up nicely.  Really ace gargoyle.  The trees set a proper mood as well.
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Quote CDI Replybullet Posted: 25 June 2006 at 10:18pm
everyone creams themselves at the latest pic (above) girls included
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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 3:05am
Goddamn that purple is teh shiz. This is by far the best one you have
made yet. it just seems so deep and the wall at the front is the perfect
platform. When's the game released?
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 4:00am
damn >(")<, that new one is just, wow...  i think you have a goal to have a piece in the top 10 every moth, and this one will definately be there  
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 11:34am
I want to live there.

Like, now.
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 11:39am
The ONLY THING that didn't increase exponentially in awesome in the latest update would be the platform-to-background connections. In the previous update there was some drag from the rightmost cathedral to the platform in the foreground. Now I'm not getting that feel, and the ground looks like the top of a very flat cathedral.
It's confusing, and orgasmic, but you've set me off on a good bout of critting, soooo yeah. I'm bound to find something wrong with it.
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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 12:03pm
Jalonso, you're too cool for school.
Every pixel counts, even the dead ones.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 1:05pm
Damm that Sab!!! Lately I can't please him.
More tweaks


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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 1:30pm

DON'T aim to please me, I'm very seldom completely satisfied with something. You've already satisfied me more than your share of times, so I've got uber-high standards for your work ;)
Sucker.

'sides, I AM pleased. QUITE pleased, actually. I showed off your and larwick's work to my friends ril, just to show them what other pixel artists can dooo.



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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 1:51pm
 Babies pls. <3 <3 <3
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 1:59pm
Awesome work. :) just... awesome. 
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Quote fil_razorback Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 4:01pm
OMFG !!!!
Instant fav !


I'd make a wallpaper with all your BGs !
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Quote maloART Replybullet Posted: 27 June 2006 at 6:14am

That's simply amazing ... Remember me old games on amiga.

You're a genious !

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 27 June 2006 at 9:46pm
Almost done, I think. You can't see it here but I seperated the image into the 6 layers. I also redid the connection from the platform to the left had side building (thx Sab). The tree roots looked really wierd with the walking stones so I added plants and a lower hedge to cover it up.


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Quote CDI Replybullet Posted: 27 June 2006 at 10:39pm
I need to stop looking at this... or get more pairs of pants xD *throws another in the washer*
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 3:30am
this is in my opinion, your best bg as of yet, you rock
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Quote Blueberry_pie Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 4:28am
Hot dang, this is pretty much Metal Slug quality. zomgmajorkudos2yuu.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 4:29am
I'll have to agree, at least my favourite. Well done dude, keep churning them out. For the love of mankind...
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Quote alkaline Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 8:04am
Ooh pretty....I just wish the trees would be cleaned up...
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 11:13am

Alk, As a safety precaution I've stopped wearing pants.

>(")< I totally and absolutely think you rocked the cathedral scene. Me an' probably the whole rest of the PJ forums shall be sittin' on our hands waiting for the next one. Welllll done, I salute you.

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Quote alkaline Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 11:16am
the trees have nothing to do with your pants! >:o
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 1:59pm
That's what YOU think :O
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Quote CDI Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 2:33pm
I need to buy more pants... I can no longer wear them... hmm... eww... never mind, sab is pantless too *runs*
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Quote Aiko Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 3:33pm
i just wish i had you talent and patience!
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2006 at 10:11pm
thx guys. Guess there's nothing more to do. I removed the potted plants cuz they looked crappy.
@alk and setz, I like a little bit of random scrappiness to my pixels, someday I may change my opinion on that?



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Quote zi-double Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2006 at 1:13am

hey Jalonso I can't stop to watch your works :)

They are all very impressive with very nice ideas, which every pixel works must have ...

that work ... hm and that topic are as tutorial :)

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:) GDGB :)

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 01 July 2006 at 10:28pm
Thanks to all who helped so much. The final is now posted on the gallery.
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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 02 July 2006 at 9:13am

omg! you got rid of the coloured windows! >=(

and the sky is still kinda empry (cloudwise)


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