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    Posted: 03 July 2006 at 9:10am

I received a notification (not too friendly) to use the forum for the WIP because i changed some deatails in this work (that i consider almost finished)

then i came here to hear some critics to make it better:

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 9:15am
Why does the sword not have any AA?

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Quote Skull Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 9:17am
sh*t Son.. You really don't care about size, do you?
This is huge, and looks fantastic so far. Definatly more detail/ texture is needed, but it's quite an eye pleaser. The sword looks pretty bad-ass so far, just I'd lighten the top colour, black stands out too much.


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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 9:34am
this is like a painting - but in pixels. quite nice, a bit oekaki-ish. seems
fine to me.
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Quote Dra_chan Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 12:15pm
I like it.
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Quote Bifur Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 12:33pm

Just some light mistake i could see

amazing considering the size of it ... remember me power rangers

I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...
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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 1:37pm

More critics please! ^^

(i think this new sword is so much detailed... don't like it at all)



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Quote Karl Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 1:59pm
Hmm. Is his torso meant to be bent? I'm just wondering why I see the left leg, but from that angle, the right leg would be more visible if his torso (-> the cloak) is pointing straightforward. Seems a bit odd.

But hell, great, huge pixelart, love the colours and concept!
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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 2:06pm

the left side of the cape is a bit to the right, but its a cape, it don't have a fixed position ^^ (and in this intentionaly position i dont have to draw his left leg ^^)

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Quote Bifur Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 4:52pm

sorry

I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 5:06pm
Nice improvements on the sword. I like it a lot. :) Impressive detail for such a large piece.
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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 5:20pm

Thanks Bifur, ure helping a lot!

but i ddnt understand the arrow pointing to hid left shoulder...

(simplyfied the sword reflex)

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Quote kaltsu Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 6:30pm
Anti-aliased outline looks damn messy to me. It's like you've lost your glasses and can't focus on it. Is it only me?
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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 6:47pm

isn't that the intention? to make the lines more defocused?

More critics please!



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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 7:44pm

One issue here is that instead of aaing the colors that touch, you're aaing the inside color and white. For the edges, aa from the OUTLINE color to the BG color.

Otherwise, good work and keep updating this thing!


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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 7:47pm
but the Bg will be transparent, then i used the insides collor intentionally, do u thilk itll be better if i change all the outside AA color to grey?
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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 8:11pm
Originally posted by BlackFang

I received a notification (not too friendly) to use the forum for the WIP because i changed some deatails in this work (that i consider almost finished)


I sent you to the forums because you keep uploading this piece when it seems you keep revising it. As you can see, you've gotten alot more praise and comments on how to improve than you did or would have on the main site.
I think it's a very promising piece and look forward to the final submission
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Quote kaltsu Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by BlackFang

isn't that the intention? to make the lines more defocused?

My opinion is that you shouldn't notice AAing at all without zooming in. If you do, there's too much of it or wrong colors used. But maybe you shouldn't listen to me on this subject anyway, I'm so anti-anti-aliasing it almost hurts.



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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 8:17pm

but i ddnt know that i cant re-upload it, im new here, my intention was to receive critics on the site and change it there...

Anyway, i've just changed the external AA color to grey.

but in fact the aa color must be between the 2 colors involved (the line and the bg in this case) and the line follows the object color (the line of the cape is blue, but its hard to notice due to the contrast) thats why i used a blue AA in the cape... but i must admit that the grey fits better =P



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Quote kaltsu Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 8:31pm
Originally posted by BlackFang

Anyway, i've just changed the external AA color to grey.



I think that's a good call. And hopefully you don't ever have to place you transparent picture on a dark background. It wouldn't look nice.

Liking your work btw. The size of the robot (and the sword!) is impressive. You can feel the power.

 
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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2006 at 8:33pm

I'll wait 24h for more critics, if anyone makes one, ill post it on the PJ

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Quote Setzer Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2006 at 4:25am
I still think the outer cape needs to show some folds and wrinkles based on where the body parts are. as it is right now it just looks like it's just floating there.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2006 at 5:23am


It's by no means perfect, but i thought i should let you know of the jaggedy problem you're getting from the AA and smoothening you're doing. Also, you have quite a few colours that are being left out from use elsewhere, where they really could help (eg. shadow of the fin).

And i agree with Setz.

Nice work though, a big improvement on the earlier one. Keep it up.
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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2006 at 8:20am

Fixed all AA i find, if there is more to change tell me please

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Quote Sythius Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2006 at 10:54am
[First post :o]
Anyway, I think it is absolutely great ^^
...[whats aa?]
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Quote Blueberry_pie Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2006 at 11:25am
Very nice. I feel the grey used for the AAing on the sword should be a bit darker though.

Sythius: AA means anti-aliasing. Manual anti-aliasing, that is - automatic anti-aliasing by tools like Photoshop is a big no-no in pixel art.
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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2006 at 5:15pm

done.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 05 July 2006 at 12:13am
Originally posted by kaltsu

...I'm so anti-anti-aliasing it almost hurts...


Join the club. You and I are the only members, it seems.

I like this piece and admire its size. I did not understand why it was rejected at first, but do now. Bear in mind that exterior AA does look horrid with certain themes used by the Pj members.
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Quote Di0xygen Replybullet Posted: 05 July 2006 at 3:17am
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Bear in mind that exterior AA does look horrid with certain themes used by the Pj members.


Thats why Png with alpha transparencies exists.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:57am
alpha transparencies require the use of extra tools besides the pencil tool, thus being npA 
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Quote BlackFang Replybullet Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:30am

Originally posted by jalonso

Originally posted by kaltsu

...I'm so anti-anti-aliasing it almost hurts...

I like this piece and admire its size. I did not understand why it was rejected at first, but do now.

due to the number of times i submited before approval... i ddnt know that i coul'd to that

but i submitted again yesterday, i think it is finished now, the cape problem that setzer told certainly would improve the piece, but i dont think its not a problem, my intention was that the cape was just floating there anyway (and im not familiarized with capes, clothes in general, its better leave this way ^^)

thank you all that helped me to "finish" my best work

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