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Demon
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Topic: Geek Speak Programming Talk
Posted: 12 June 2005 at 12:39am

Love the play on words. Well, anyways, Thought I would make a topic for us programmers to talk about some aspects of programming. So first question, what languages do you know? This can also include Flash ActionScripting

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I know the following languages:
Visual Basic 6.0
ASP
Javascript
HTML/XHTML/XML

"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.

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kipton
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Posted: 12 June 2005 at 3:42am

i guess i'm not cool enough for this one
i have some experience with java programming, but that's about it
to make text documents i use LaTeX though - does that give me any geek credits?

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Rifts
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Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:10am

umm, i know

CSS
HTML
Some javascript
Actionscript,

an i thikn thats it :/

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Brian the Great
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Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:12am

HTML
Whatever language Delphi 7 uses
GML?

I know, it's sad. I need some programming tits. I mean tuts.

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Blueberry_pie
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Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:19am

I know a little bit of ActionScript and Basic, but since I haven't used either languages in quite a while I've forgotten most of it...
I also used to know Robotic, the language used in Megazeux, but again: I haven't used it in a long time so I've forgotten nearly everything. Stupid memory.

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Posted: 12 June 2005 at 10:53am

Once you program a little bit you'll see that most common languages all work from the same "base" and are pretty easy to learn. Learn a language based on Basic, Perl and C and you'll be able to pick up almost anything.

Basic - Visual Basic, VB.NET, ASP (VB Script)
Perl - PHP
C - C++, C#, Java, JavaScript, ActionScript

If you are interested in Web Development you have to learn XML, CSS and know everything about HTML. You also should invest some time learning how to use SQL with MSSQL, MySQL and Oracle to be a real superstar. And last but not least... learn how to use Regular Expressions.

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Demon
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Posted: 12 June 2005 at 11:31am

Spoken like an experience programmer. :) Here's another question to go along with the first one. How long have you been programming those languages?

VB6 - 5 Years
ASP - 1 1/2 Years
XHTML/XML/Javascript - a couple months
HTML - 7 years

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Posted: 12 June 2005 at 9:32pm

im capable of editing most online type scripts (PHP, HTML, XHTML, css, ect.)

but for some reason I just cant understand the innner workings of PHP not sure whats causing the block in my head I hope to get it at some point.

got game?

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TakeOut
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Posted: 14 June 2005 at 3:44pm

I'm skilled in:
html/xhtml/xml, actionscript (will help alot if I decide to make pixel games, I'll submit them to here if I do :D), and css

I know little of:
php, javascript, c++, asp

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Howling
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Posted: 16 June 2005 at 2:56am

PHP, HTML, XHTML and CSS + a very little bit of javascript and actionscript.

I only script in XHTML Strict nowadays (though don't visit my own homepage, it isn't yet

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Funkapotamus
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Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:09am

I know: c/c++/c#, java, cobol, php, perl, (visual)basic

FYI: The "ML"s (HTML, etc.) arn't programming languages. They're markup languages. CSS isn't a language at all, it's just one feature of HTML and hence, isn't a programming language either.

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Demon
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Posted: 20 June 2005 at 6:17pm

lol, yes Funkapotamus, we know the correct terms for that stuff. And yet I dont believe that will change anything. Oh ya, PHP isnt a programming language either, its a server-side scripting language.

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sedgemonkey
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Posted: 20 June 2005 at 6:48pm

Woah now fellas. Programming is a relative term. All the techs mentioned above (HTML, CSS, XML) are all used in close relationship with many web programming languages so it's all good.

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pixelblink
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Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:26pm

umm... I'm sorry to say I'm not THAT big of a geek. I've only made a site once or twice and used Frontpage for all of it. I do plan to get a bit more into it in the future but, I'm retarded

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TakeOut
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Posted: 20 June 2005 at 8:24pm

Programming does wonders if you plan to put your pixel art in games. Which I know many pixel artists here might like. I came here to tone my pixel art, cause I plan on making pixel games..

Right now I have a picross game in the works with a friend, and a couple of my own games. I'd be glad to do a couple of joints with members here. That was another reason I came here for.

I'm not that much of a geek either. Who says I can't pretain a social life and still be cool just because I know a bunch of languages. I hate labels.

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pixelblink
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Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:45pm

lol... it was pure sarcasm on the geek bit, TakeOut. I'm as much a geek as anyone else here. Being a geek isn't a bad thing these days... take it all in stride dude.

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Funkapotamus
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Posted: 22 June 2005 at 10:44am

Originally posted by Demon

lol, yes Funkapotamus, we know the correct terms for that stuff.
And yet I dont believe that will change anything. Oh ya, PHP isnt
a programming language either, its a server-side scripting language.

Actually, "scripting" refers to the fact that the language isn't precompiled. Perl and PHP are interpreted on the fly and thus are scripting languages. They are still programming languages.

The trait that defines a programming language as opposed to a markup language is the ability to deliberately access memory either directly (ex: assembly) or indirectly (ex: variable). Thus, PHP/Perl/Javascript are programming languages.

It is possible to precompile and otherwise optimize php/perl, but this is besides the point.

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PixelSnader
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Posted: 22 June 2005 at 1:51pm

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Demon
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Posted: 22 June 2005 at 2:52pm

No need to argue, but for the sake of simplicity how about we ignore all that hoopajoop and just have some fun progamming/scripting/markup language talk; instead of trying to prove who knows their terms better.

"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.

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Funkapotamus
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Posted: 22 June 2005 at 5:11pm

Originally posted by Demon

No need to argue, but for the sake of simplicity how about we ignore
all that hoopajoop and just have some fun progamming/scripting/markup
language talk; instead of trying to prove who knows their terms
better.

I didn't know that discussing the classification of languages was considered "hoopajoop". I am apprantly mistaken- I was under the impression that such things fell under "fun language talk". It is a discussion about languages after all...

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Demon
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Posted: 22 June 2005 at 5:46pm

Yes, though so far it has been an introduction into languages as in who can program what, and how they came about programming. Kinda a beginners session, but if you wanna talk advanced wise then thats kool. :D No harm no fowl, I guess I misinterpreted your posts.

So, ya, I started breaking myself from Visual Basic, and I am starting to program in REALbasic, very similar but compatible on pretty much all OS's. I've also been looking at PHP, getting the hang of it, but I dont have any real use for it like I use ASP. I wished ASP had some of the features PHP had though, it would make ASP ALOT better.

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Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:54pm

Off the top of my head I'd say I'm pretty proficient in HTML, CSS, Javascript and some PHP, XML/XHTML and would like to become more fluent but as I am not planning on programming for a living, they are not my top priorities, hehe.

I mean, I learned most of those back from between the ages of 11 and 14 and I haven't really gotten back into the swing of things since.. Heh..

I figure I could learn some stuff from you guys, however :)

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Demon
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Posted: 24 June 2005 at 12:37am

well XHTML is pretty much a cleaner version of HTML, meaning you have to keep everything in order and close all tags. And <img src=""> now ends like this <img src="" />, as well as <br> = <br />. There are some other changes as well.

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Posted: 23 July 2005 at 6:18am

Visual Basic
ASP
A little bit of Javascript
HTML
and ActionScript

I really want to learn PHP though, I know where to learn but I just couldn't be bothered atm

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Zoomrix
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Posted: 23 July 2005 at 10:56am

HTML (of course)

CSS (very easy)

Some Java Script (too lazy to learn it all)

Some PHP (same as above ^)

Some ActionScript (haven't had the chance to learn much of it)

My Portfolio

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Ensellitis
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Posted: 23 July 2005 at 6:36pm

Know pretty much in and out:
HTML
CSS
PHP

Know enough to be dangerous:
Javascript
CGI/Perl
mySQL
Visual Basic
Women
C++
Python

Learning or know the basics:
ASP
Cold Fusion
Flash/Actionscripting

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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.

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Posted: 24 July 2005 at 7:14am

Strong languages:
XHTML, CSS, PHP, SQL, GML

Not-so-strong languages:
JS, Java, C/C++, Basic, mIRC script

Reality is for people who lack imagination

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Xion Night
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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 4:07pm

I know nothing...

But I can always pretend that I do.

Kizzah!

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 9:24pm

mIRC scripting (for years, I'm "DukeNukem"), HTML, XHTML, CSS, XML, POV-Ray's SDL and PHP. I've been avoiding JS because it sucks, but I'll get to it soon... :|

I also know a tiny bit of C\C++, PERL and Python.

I really wish I was learning more and more but I haven't been very motivated lately....

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Lawrence
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Posted: 30 July 2005 at 9:16am

Just HTML, CSS and a tiny sprinkle of Javascript. I really want to learn PHP/ASP and make database stuff, but it's really hard.

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Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:11pm

Not as much as i should

Know
HTML/CSS/ IRC Script. (I've gotten rusty at HTML as i tend to use Dreamweaver to code everything once i've finished in Photoshop.

Some
XHTML.

Bairly
PHP/Javascript.

I live my life one pixel at a time.

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Posted: 05 September 2005 at 7:05am

My turn? ok.

I know GML which isnt considered a serous language, it is used in ONE application,but gets the job done. I also know a small bit of C++, and of course most powerful of all TI Calculator!!

does anyone know a site for free compilers i want to learn BASIC, preferably with graphics commands.

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Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:01pm

html, css, some javascript,
i wanna learn J2ME Java does anyone know any sites for beginners,
if not ill have to buy a book.

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Posted: 07 September 2005 at 7:01am

I can program in the following:

1. PHP - I prefer the Postnuke API environment. Postnuke has managed to take care of all the things that I feel are important to a basic site... Security, User Management, Sessions, etc...

2. Java - Minor experience, but understand the basics enough the I feel confident I could pick it up... The packages are what throws me... Haven't programmed enough in it is all...

3. Visual Basic - I code mainly in VBA right now. Writing custom database apps in Access and custom Word files as well with the ability to jump data between the two... I have Visual Basic Dot Net just waiting to be installed, just haven't had a chance.

4. C# - I haven't coded (per se) in C# but I have read enough that I feel I could put together a basic program with little hassle.

Those are the programming languages I know of and about... The scripting languages are as follows:

1. Javascript - I have done alot in Javascript, mainly mouseover effects, some game mechanics stuff for a game I worked on, and some minor image management stuff. I really like Javascript.

2. Flash / Actionscript - I have read several decent sized books. I understand the concepts, have written some minor code for Flash, my biggest problem so far is knowing WHERE to place your code? I feel comfortable enough that I think I could put together some Class files and basic code for a simple game, but I would be lost as to where to place the actual code! Bleh... still learning...

3. VBScript - I have done very little as I prefer Javascript, but I have put together minor scripts in VBScript for sites in the past...

Then of course theres...

1. HTML / XHTML / CSS - I prefer to do things in CSS, but now that I am picking up Pixel art... I think I will have to suspend some CSS in favor of tables so I can use self-created borders and such...

2. XML / XSL / XSLT / DTD - I have read and studied ALOT of XML, as for putting together XML files... creating XSL / XSLT and DTD files? I have not done so, but I understand the concept and I feel that I could manage to put together what was needed should I come across the need for it.

Now I also am confident and capable in working with the following Database Technologies...

1. MySQL / SQL - Having worked with MS Access from version 95 to XP I am very confident in writing SQL statements for data manipulation.

2. Access - If you need Access to do it, most likely I can make it do it... I have built everything from custom applications that I have sold to making game-related packages for managing data from games. I currently have two Data-Apps for the RPG System GURPS. I have a Galaxy Creator that will generate Single to Multiple Suns, the planets and asteroids that orbit those suns, which ones are in the Suns Biosphere meaning they can sustain carbon-based life, etc... It manages the planets and will manage their moons once I complete it.

And that is all I can think of... I like coding, but I also enjoy working with digital art... whether in Pixel-form or other media styles. I have stayed away from commercial products like Flash because my goal was to design webb-apps / games using Open Source languages (like PHP) in order to save clients the cost of purchasing software licenses so they can edit what I create for them...

However, in order to put together some games I am working on, I am forced to learn Flash because it will make alot of the projects just that much easier...

As for working with others on this site? I am wondering why we don't have some kind of Open Source game in the making...

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Pixel_Outlaw
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Posted: 07 September 2005 at 8:26am

t randomblink no TI calculator?

Life must be so hard for you without this powerful and FLEXABLE language....

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German, english, estonian and a bit html.

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Posted: 08 September 2005 at 2:07am

Hmm.

* ASM (Z80 and Intel x86)
* Basic (Locomotive, Qbasic, GWBasic)
* Python [1]
* C (and C++ though it is a terrible language)
* Lua
* HTML
* some Javascript
* some shell script
[1] my language of choice.

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Posted: 09 September 2005 at 2:58am

char* array2D = "GpewL2pq3mzxTh3iGze22iEx/m2h8zWm/r8i2>Qq2k2z{T2i8>j&g t;iiww2NeTfvs2";
int width = 8;
int height = 8;
int asciiOffset = 4;

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me7356
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Posted: 10 September 2005 at 1:00pm

I know English.

I know a little HTML, and some GML. Of course, I don't know any hard languages.

The reader of this has no life.

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Posted: 05 November 2005 at 3:37am

GML, HTML, C++, and I tried to learn C# but its classes scared me.

RPG is numberwang.

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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 6:19am

Awww man... Class rock.

But I have to admit... From the 10+ programming classes in various languages that I have been able to attend, I have yet to learn what a class is in a learning-environment. I have picked up classes accidentally on my own. If you want a few tips from a self-proclaimed genius? Here I is... chuckle

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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 7:12am

Why the heck are graphics functions in languages like C++ and basic ignored in some books? Duh we alll knnow about loops and operators. That makes me REALLY mad!!! Nobody wants to use a dos looking window for games and apps.

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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 8:33am

I'm learning QBASIC and HTML...

so, does that mean I can be a geek?

..please?

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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 8:47am

Taps your shoulder with a keyboard...

Arise oh geek... and join the ranks of your brothers and sisters in code...

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Demon Commander Joined: 16 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Topic: Geek Speak Programming Talk Posted: 12 June 2005 at 12:39am
	Love the play on words. Well, anyways, Thought I would make a topic for us programmers to talk about some aspects of programming. So first question, what languages do you know? This can also include Flash ActionScripting . I know the following languages: Visual Basic 6.0 ASP Javascript HTML/XHTML/XML
	"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.
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kipton Seaman Joined: 08 June 2005 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 14	Posted: 12 June 2005 at 3:42am
	i guess i'm not cool enough for this one i have some experience with java programming, but that's about it to make text documents i use LaTeX though - does that give me any geek credits?
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Rifts Commander Joined: 14 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 355	Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:10am
	umm, i know CSS HTML Some javascript Actionscript, an i thikn thats it :/
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Brian the Great Commander RED! Joined: 03 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2221	Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:12am
	HTML Whatever language Delphi 7 uses GML? I know, it's sad. I need some programming tits. I mean tuts.

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Blueberry_pie Rear Admiral Joined: 24 July 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2176	Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:19am
	I know a little bit of ActionScript and Basic, but since I haven't used either languages in quite a while I've forgotten most of it... I also used to know Robotic, the language used in Megazeux, but again: I haven't used it in a long time so I've forgotten nearly everything. Stupid memory.
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sedgemonkey Admiral Joined: 07 April 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1669	Posted: 12 June 2005 at 10:53am
	Once you program a little bit you'll see that most common languages all work from the same "base" and are pretty easy to learn. Learn a language based on Basic, Perl and C and you'll be able to pick up almost anything. Basic - Visual Basic, VB.NET, ASP (VB Script) Perl - PHP C - C++, C#, Java, JavaScript, ActionScript If you are interested in Web Development you have to learn XML, CSS and know everything about HTML. You also should invest some time learning how to use SQL with MSSQL, MySQL and Oracle to be a real superstar. And last but not least... learn how to use Regular Expressions.
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Demon Commander Joined: 16 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 12 June 2005 at 11:31am
	Spoken like an experience programmer. :) Here's another question to go along with the first one. How long have you been programming those languages? VB6 - 5 Years ASP - 1 1/2 Years XHTML/XML/Javascript - a couple months HTML - 7 years
	"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.
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Psychotic_Carp Commander Joined: 02 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1008	Posted: 12 June 2005 at 9:32pm
	im capable of editing most online type scripts (PHP, HTML, XHTML, css, ect.) but for some reason I just cant understand the innner workings of PHP not sure whats causing the block in my head I hope to get it at some point.
	got game?
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TakeOut Commander Joined: 27 March 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 147	Posted: 14 June 2005 at 3:44pm
	I'm skilled in: html/xhtml/xml, actionscript (will help alot if I decide to make pixel games, I'll submit them to here if I do :D), and css I know little of: php, javascript, c++, asp Edited by TakeOut
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Howling Seaman Joined: 13 November 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Posted: 16 June 2005 at 2:56am
	PHP, HTML, XHTML and CSS + a very little bit of javascript and actionscript. I only script in XHTML Strict nowadays (though don't visit my own homepage, it isn't yet )
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Funkapotamus Seaman Joined: 20 June 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:09am
	I know: c/c++/c#, java, cobol, php, perl, (visual)basic FYI: The "ML"s (HTML, etc.) arn't programming languages. They're markup languages. CSS isn't a language at all, it's just one feature of HTML and hence, isn't a programming language either.
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Demon Commander Joined: 16 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 20 June 2005 at 6:17pm
	lol, yes Funkapotamus, we know the correct terms for that stuff. And yet I dont believe that will change anything. Oh ya, PHP isnt a programming language either, its a server-side scripting language.
	"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.
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sedgemonkey Admiral Joined: 07 April 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1669	Posted: 20 June 2005 at 6:48pm
	Woah now fellas. Programming is a relative term. All the techs mentioned above (HTML, CSS, XML) are all used in close relationship with many web programming languages so it's all good.
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pixelblink Commander Joined: 19 February 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2865	Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:26pm
	umm... I'm sorry to say I'm not THAT big of a geek. I've only made a site once or twice and used Frontpage for all of it. I do plan to get a bit more into it in the future but, I'm retarded
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TakeOut Commander Joined: 27 March 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 147	Posted: 20 June 2005 at 8:24pm
	Programming does wonders if you plan to put your pixel art in games. Which I know many pixel artists here might like. I came here to tone my pixel art, cause I plan on making pixel games.. Right now I have a picross game in the works with a friend, and a couple of my own games. I'd be glad to do a couple of joints with members here. That was another reason I came here for. I'm not that much of a geek either. Who says I can't pretain a social life and still be cool just because I know a bunch of languages. I hate labels. Edited by TakeOut
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pixelblink Commander Joined: 19 February 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2865	Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:45pm
	lol... it was pure sarcasm on the geek bit, TakeOut. I'm as much a geek as anyone else here. Being a geek isn't a bad thing these days... take it all in stride dude.
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Funkapotamus Seaman Joined: 20 June 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Posted: 22 June 2005 at 10:44am
	*Originally posted by Demon* lol, yes Funkapotamus, we know the correct terms for that stuff. And yet I dont believe that will change anything. Oh ya, PHP isnt a programming language either, its a server-side scripting language. Actually, "scripting" refers to the fact that the language isn't precompiled. Perl and PHP are interpreted on the fly and thus are scripting languages. They are still programming languages. The trait that defines a programming language as opposed to a markup language is the ability to deliberately access memory either directly (ex: assembly) or indirectly (ex: variable). Thus, PHP/Perl/Javascript are programming languages. It is possible to precompile and otherwise optimize php/perl, but this is besides the point. Edited by Funkapotamus
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PixelSnader Commander Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194	Posted: 22 June 2005 at 1:51pm
	i know 1337 omglololololo!!!11!1one -cough-
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Demon Commander Joined: 16 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 22 June 2005 at 2:52pm
	No need to argue, but for the sake of simplicity how about we ignore all that hoopajoop and just have some fun progamming/scripting/markup language talk; instead of trying to prove who knows their terms better.
	"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.
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Funkapotamus Seaman Joined: 20 June 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Posted: 22 June 2005 at 5:11pm
	*Originally posted by Demon* No need to argue, but for the sake of simplicity how about we ignore all that hoopajoop and just have some fun progamming/scripting/markup language talk; instead of trying to prove who knows their terms better. I didn't know that discussing the classification of languages was considered "hoopajoop". I am apprantly mistaken- I was under the impression that such things fell under "fun language talk". It is a discussion about languages after all...
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Demon Commander Joined: 16 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 22 June 2005 at 5:46pm
	Yes, though so far it has been an introduction into languages as in who can program what, and how they came about programming. Kinda a beginners session, but if you wanna talk advanced wise then thats kool. :D No harm no fowl, I guess I misinterpreted your posts. So, ya, I started breaking myself from Visual Basic, and I am starting to program in REALbasic, very similar but compatible on pretty much all OS's. I've also been looking at PHP, getting the hang of it, but I dont have any real use for it like I use ASP. I wished ASP had some of the features PHP had though, it would make ASP ALOT better. Edited by Demon
	"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.
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Chesheyre Seaman Joined: 21 June 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 18	Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:54pm
	Off the top of my head I'd say I'm pretty proficient in HTML, CSS, Javascript and some PHP, XML/XHTML and would like to become more fluent but as I am not planning on programming for a living, they are not my top priorities, hehe. I mean, I learned most of those back from between the ages of 11 and 14 and I haven't really gotten back into the swing of things since.. Heh.. I figure I could learn some stuff from you guys, however :)
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Demon Commander Joined: 16 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 24 June 2005 at 12:37am
	well XHTML is pretty much a cleaner version of HTML, meaning you have to keep everything in order and close all tags. And <img src=""> now ends like this <img src="" />, as well as <br> = <br />. There are some other changes as well.
	"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.
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GoroUnreal Seaman Joined: 13 July 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 23 July 2005 at 6:18am
	Visual Basic ASP A little bit of Javascript HTML and ActionScript I really want to learn PHP though, I know where to learn but I just couldn't be bothered atm
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Zoomrix Commander Joined: 27 April 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 342	Posted: 23 July 2005 at 10:56am
	HTML (of course) CSS (very easy) Some Java Script (too lazy to learn it all) Some PHP (same as above ^) Some ActionScript (haven't had the chance to learn much of it)
	My Portfolio
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 23 July 2005 at 6:36pm
	Know pretty much in and out: HTML CSS PHP Know enough to be dangerous: Javascript CGI/Perl mySQL Visual Basic Women C++ Python Learning or know the basics: ASP Cold Fusion Flash/Actionscripting
	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Core_12 Seaman Joined: 13 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 24 July 2005 at 7:14am
	Strong languages: XHTML, CSS, PHP, SQL, GML Not-so-strong languages: JS, Java, C/C++, Basic, mIRC script
	Reality is for people who lack imagination
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Xion Night Midshipman Joined: 10 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 67	Posted: 29 July 2005 at 4:07pm
	I know nothing... But I can always pretend that I do.
	Kizzah!
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1ucas Commander Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Posted: 29 July 2005 at 9:24pm
	mIRC scripting (for years, I'm "DukeNukem"), HTML, XHTML, CSS, XML, POV-Ray's SDL and PHP. I've been avoiding JS because it sucks, but I'll get to it soon... :\| I also know a tiny bit of C\C++, PERL and Python. I really wish I was learning more and more but I haven't been very motivated lately....
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Lawrence Commander Joined: 30 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 481	Posted: 30 July 2005 at 9:16am
	Just HTML, CSS and a tiny sprinkle of Javascript. I really want to learn PHP/ASP and make database stuff, but it's really hard.
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scribe Seaman Joined: 21 July 2005 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 12	Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:11pm
	Not as much as i should Know HTML/CSS/ IRC Script. (I've gotten rusty at HTML as i tend to use Dreamweaver to code everything once i've finished in Photoshop. Some XHTML. Bairly PHP/Javascript.
	I live my life one pixel at a time.
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Pixel_Outlaw Commander Joined: 01 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3829	Posted: 05 September 2005 at 7:05am
	My turn? ok. I know GML which isnt considered a serous language, it is used in ONE application,but gets the job done. I also know a small bit of C++, and of course most powerful of all TI Calculator!! does anyone know a site for free compilers i want to learn BASIC, preferably with graphics commands.
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Shark Commander a.k.a. Feron Joined: 02 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2136	Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:01pm
	html, css, some javascript, i wanna learn J2ME Java does anyone know any sites for beginners, if not ill have to buy a book.
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randomblink Commander Joined: 13 February 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403	Posted: 07 September 2005 at 7:01am
	I can program in the following: 1. PHP - I prefer the Postnuke API environment. Postnuke has managed to take care of all the things that I feel are important to a basic site... Security, User Management, Sessions, etc... 2. Java - Minor experience, but understand the basics enough the I feel confident I could pick it up... The packages are what throws me... Haven't programmed enough in it is all... 3. Visual Basic - I code mainly in VBA right now. Writing custom database apps in Access and custom Word files as well with the ability to jump data between the two... I have Visual Basic Dot Net just waiting to be installed, just haven't had a chance. 4. C# - I haven't coded (per se) in C# but I have read enough that I feel I could put together a basic program with little hassle. Those are the programming languages I know of and about... The scripting languages are as follows: 1. Javascript - I have done alot in Javascript, mainly mouseover effects, some game mechanics stuff for a game I worked on, and some minor image management stuff. I really like Javascript. 2. Flash / Actionscript - I have read several decent sized books. I understand the concepts, have written some minor code for Flash, my biggest problem so far is knowing WHERE to place your code? I feel comfortable enough that I think I could put together some Class files and basic code for a simple game, but I would be lost as to where to place the actual code! Bleh... still learning... 3. VBScript - I have done very little as I prefer Javascript, but I have put together minor scripts in VBScript for sites in the past... Then of course theres... 1. HTML / XHTML / CSS - I prefer to do things in CSS, but now that I am picking up Pixel art... I think I will have to suspend some CSS in favor of tables so I can use self-created borders and such... 2. XML / XSL / XSLT / DTD - I have read and studied ALOT of XML, as for putting together XML files... creating XSL / XSLT and DTD files? I have not done so, but I understand the concept and I feel that I could manage to put together what was needed should I come across the need for it. Now I also am confident and capable in working with the following Database Technologies... 1. MySQL / SQL - Having worked with MS Access from version 95 to XP I am very confident in writing SQL statements for data manipulation. 2. Access - If you need Access to do it, most likely I can make it do it... I have built everything from custom applications that I have sold to making game-related packages for managing data from games. I currently have two Data-Apps for the RPG System GURPS. I have a Galaxy Creator that will generate Single to Multiple Suns, the planets and asteroids that orbit those suns, which ones are in the Suns Biosphere meaning they can sustain carbon-based life, etc... It manages the planets and will manage their moons once I complete it. And that is all I can think of... I like coding, but I also enjoy working with digital art... whether in Pixel-form or other media styles. I have stayed away from commercial products like Flash because my goal was to design webb-apps / games using Open Source languages (like PHP) in order to save clients the cost of purchasing software licenses so they can edit what I create for them... However, in order to put together some games I am working on, I am forced to learn Flash because it will make alot of the projects just that much easier... As for working with others on this site? I am wondering why we don't have some kind of Open Source game in the making...
	www.randomblink.com I am me... no! Really!
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Pixel_Outlaw Commander Joined: 01 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3829	Posted: 07 September 2005 at 8:26am
	t randomblink no TI calculator? Life must be so hard for you without this powerful and FLEXABLE language....
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inkspot Commander Joined: 05 May 2005 Location: Estonia Online Status: Offline Posts: 452	Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:25am
	German, english, estonian and a bit html.
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neota Commander Joined: 27 November 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 158	Posted: 08 September 2005 at 2:07am
	Hmm. * ASM (Z80 and Intel x86) * Basic (Locomotive, Qbasic, GWBasic) * Python [1] * C (and C++ though it is a terrible language) * Lua * HTML * some Javascript * some shell script [1] my language of choice.
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Ork Midshipman Joined: 21 April 2014 Location: Finland Online Status: Offline Posts: 46	Posted: 09 September 2005 at 2:58am
	char* array2D = "GpewL2pq3mzxTh3iGze22iEx/m2h8zWm/r8i2>Qq2k2z{T2i8>j&g t;iiww2NeTfvs2"; int width = 8; int height = 8; int asciiOffset = 4;
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me7356 Midshipman Joined: 11 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 54	Posted: 10 September 2005 at 1:00pm
	I know English. I know a little HTML, and some GML. Of course, I don't know any hard languages.
	The reader of this has no life.
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Monkey 'o Doom Commander Joined: 24 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2994	Posted: 05 November 2005 at 3:37am
	GML, HTML, C++, and I tried to learn C# but its classes scared me.
	RPG is numberwang.
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randomblink Commander Joined: 13 February 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403	Posted: 07 November 2005 at 6:19am
	Awww man... Class rock. But I have to admit... From the 10+ programming classes in various languages that I have been able to attend, I have yet to learn what a class is in a learning-environment. I have picked up classes accidentally on my own. If you want a few tips from a self-proclaimed genius? Here I is... chuckle
	www.randomblink.com I am me... no! Really!
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Pixel_Outlaw Commander Joined: 01 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3829	Posted: 07 November 2005 at 7:12am
	Why the heck are graphics functions in languages like C++ and basic ignored in some books? Duh we alll knnow about loops and operators. That makes me REALLY mad!!! Nobody wants to use a dos looking window for games and apps.
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Citizen_Insane Commander Joined: 30 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 189	Posted: 07 November 2005 at 8:33am
	I'm learning QBASIC and HTML... so, does that mean I can be a geek? ..please?
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randomblink Commander Joined: 13 February 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403	Posted: 07 November 2005 at 8:47am
	Taps your shoulder with a keyboard... Arise oh geek... and join the ranks of your brothers and sisters in code...
	www.randomblink.com I am me... no! Really!
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