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jujucece
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Topic: Arc de triomphe...
Posted: 06 July 2005 at 7:40am

Hi,

I'm just a beginner in Iso Pixel Art but I try to create a contribution for PixelDam.

Here it is :

It's the "Arc de Triomphe" in Paris.

Any comments are welcommed !

And I've a little question :
at the end, I use a little filter (a small blur) to make the construction look older.

Things like that can be done in Pixel Art ?

See ya...

Jujucece

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sedgemonkey
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 7:56am

Any filter (a blur would definitely fall under filter) is not considered pixel art at all.

Pixel art is pretty easy to classify... each pixel should be placed by hand using the pencil tool. Basically if the tool isn't in MSPaint then it's not a valid tool for creating pixel art. Brushes, gradient fills, filters are all a huge no-no when it comes to pixel art.

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jujucece
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:08am

OK, thanks for the quick answer...

So, here's the True Pixel Art version of my Arc de Triomphe :

I would be happy to receive comments before sending it to Pixel Dam...

Thanks in advance !

Jujucece

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Dutrho
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:16am

Ah! mais c'est très bien!

petite question, on dirait qui'l manque un morceau sur le coté gauche vers le haut.

translation;

Ah! Very nice.

there looks to be a peice missing on the left side of the structure.

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jujucece
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:21am

Originally posted by Dutrho

Ah! mais c'est très bien!

petite question, on dirait qui'l manque un morceau sur le coté gauche vers le haut.

translation;

Ah! Very nice.

there looks to be a peice missing on the left side of the structure.

En fait, il ne manque rien, c'est la vrai qui a des "trous"...

Mais c'est vrai que je devrait peut-être être plus précis à cet endroit...

Merci beaucoup !

trans:
In fact, nothing is missing, the real one have the same "holes" !

But I should probably be more precise in this area !

Thanks a lot

Look the real one (my reference picture)

Jujucece

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Dutrho
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:38am

ok ca fait du sense!, j'avait jamais vue l'arc de ce point de vue.

; ok, makes sense, I never saw the arc from that point of vue.

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1ucas
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:49am

You kinda missed the... border things... that... extend outside the... uh... building...

Dammit! I'll just post a picture

There we go.
(there's more than the ones I pointed out)

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jujucece
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 10:41am

1ucas, I think you're right, I didn't work enough on these points. They're too geometric...

I'll try to improve this...

Thanks !

Jujucece

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Saiklor
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 3:47pm

it's not that they're too geometric, it's that on the "outside" corners the border clearly is 3d and sticks out, but on the inside corners, where we should be able to see this by seeing the top of the border like the top of a long rectangle, we don't see anything but flat 2d design.

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Psychotic_Carp
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Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:53pm

Nice work sir and or ma'am

got game?

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jujucece
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Posted: 07 July 2005 at 1:08am

Here's a new version with changes following your advices...

Jujucece

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Aleiav
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Posted: 07 July 2005 at 2:31am

Is this thing on sand? I would give the ground more of a grainy look if it's sand. Some texture for it would be nice. Bricks, grains, anything. That'd look nice. :)

GREAT job by the way. I love the detail on the building. :)

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samson
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Posted: 07 July 2005 at 4:23am

I love that you didn't use outlines on the arch, but it makes the ppl look "off". I'd try to match them better to what you did with the building (sans outlines). Also that chain fence around the monument seems very harsh. The bas-relief sculptures just look amazing. :)

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jujucece
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Posted: 07 July 2005 at 7:40am

Originally posted by samson

I love that you didn't use outlines on the arch, but it makes the ppl look "off". I'd try to match them better to what you did with the building (sans outlines).

I see that thing, but it didn't shock me because, usually, ppl in PixelDam are outlines. So I choose outline people to better integrate the city... (even if the construction is not outlined !)

Originally posted by samson

Also that chain fence around the monument seems very harsh. The bas-relief sculptures just look amazing. :)

Thanks for the bas-relief...

For the chain, I probably have to work a little more on it, to make it more flexible...

Originally posted by Aleiav

Is this thing on sand? I would give the ground more of a grainy look if it's sand. Some texture for it would be nice. Bricks, grains, anything. That'd look nice. :)

GREAT job by the way. I love the detail on the building. :)

Thanks...
In fact, it's not on sand, but on a sort of ground made of stones, but I've no precise photographic reference for this point...

Bye...

Jujucece

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jujucece Midshipman Joined: 06 July 2005 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 60	Topic: Arc de triomphe... Posted: 06 July 2005 at 7:40am
	Hi, I'm just a beginner in Iso Pixel Art but I try to create a contribution for PixelDam. Here it is : It's the "Arc de Triomphe" in Paris. Any comments are welcommed ! And I've a little question : at the end, I use a little filter (a small blur) to make the construction look older. Things like that can be done in Pixel Art ? See ya...
	Jujucece
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sedgemonkey Admiral Joined: 07 April 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1669	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 7:56am
	Any filter (a blur would definitely fall under filter) is not considered pixel art at all. Pixel art is pretty easy to classify... each pixel should be placed by hand using the pencil tool. Basically if the tool isn't in MSPaint then it's not a valid tool for creating pixel art. Brushes, gradient fills, filters are all a huge no-no when it comes to pixel art.
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jujucece Midshipman Joined: 06 July 2005 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 60	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:08am
	OK, thanks for the quick answer... So, here's the True Pixel Art version of my Arc de Triomphe : I would be happy to receive comments before sending it to Pixel Dam... Thanks in advance !
	Jujucece
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Dutrho Commander Joined: 04 July 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 237	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:16am
	Ah! mais c'est très bien! petite question, on dirait qui'l manque un morceau sur le coté gauche vers le haut. translation; Ah! Very nice. there looks to be a peice missing on the left side of the structure. Edited by Dutrho
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jujucece Midshipman Joined: 06 July 2005 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 60	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:21am
	*Originally posted by Dutrho* Ah! mais c'est très bien! petite question, on dirait qui'l manque un morceau sur le coté gauche vers le haut. translation; Ah! Very nice. there looks to be a peice missing on the left side of the structure. En fait, il ne manque rien, c'est la vrai qui a des "trous"... Mais c'est vrai que je devrait peut-être être plus précis à cet endroit... Merci beaucoup ! trans: In fact, nothing is missing, the real one have the same "holes" ! But I should probably be more precise in this area ! Thanks a lot Look the real one (my reference picture)
	Jujucece
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Dutrho Commander Joined: 04 July 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 237	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:38am
	ok ca fait du sense!, j'avait jamais vue l'arc de ce point de vue. ; ok, makes sense, I never saw the arc from that point of vue.
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1ucas Commander Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:49am
	You kinda missed the... border things... that... extend outside the... uh... building... Dammit! I'll just post a picture There we go. (there's more than the ones I pointed out) Edited by 1ucas
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jujucece Midshipman Joined: 06 July 2005 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 60	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 10:41am
	1ucas, I think you're right, I didn't work enough on these points. They're too geometric... I'll try to improve this... Thanks !
	Jujucece
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Saiklor Commander Joined: 16 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 230	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 3:47pm
	it's not that they're too geometric, it's that on the "outside" corners the border clearly is 3d and sticks out, but on the inside corners, where we should be able to see this by seeing the top of the border like the top of a long rectangle, we don't see anything but flat 2d design.
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Psychotic_Carp Commander Joined: 02 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1008	Posted: 06 July 2005 at 8:53pm
	Nice work sir and or ma'am
	got game?
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jujucece Midshipman Joined: 06 July 2005 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 60	Posted: 07 July 2005 at 1:08am
	Here's a new version with changes following your advices...
	Jujucece
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 07 July 2005 at 2:31am
	Is this thing on sand? I would give the ground more of a grainy look if it's sand. Some texture for it would be nice. Bricks, grains, anything. That'd look nice. :) GREAT job by the way. I love the detail on the building. :) Edited by Aleiav
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samson Seaman Joined: 21 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20	Posted: 07 July 2005 at 4:23am
	I love that you didn't use outlines on the arch, but it makes the ppl look "off". I'd try to match them better to what you did with the building (sans outlines). Also that chain fence around the monument seems very harsh. The bas-relief sculptures just look amazing. :)
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jujucece Midshipman Joined: 06 July 2005 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 60	Posted: 07 July 2005 at 7:40am
	*Originally posted by samson* I love that you didn't use outlines on the arch, but it makes the ppl look "off". I'd try to match them better to what you did with the building (sans outlines). I see that thing, but it didn't shock me because, usually, ppl in PixelDam are outlines. So I choose outline people to better integrate the city... (even if the construction is not outlined !) *Originally posted by samson* Also that chain fence around the monument seems very harsh. The bas-relief sculptures just look amazing. :) Thanks for the bas-relief... For the chain, I probably have to work a little more on it, to make it more flexible... *Originally posted by Aleiav* Is this thing on sand? I would give the ground more of a grainy look if it's sand. Some texture for it would be nice. Bricks, grains, anything. That'd look nice. :) GREAT job by the way. I love the detail on the building. :) Thanks... In fact, it's not on sand, but on a sort of ground made of stones, but I've no precise photographic reference for this point... Bye...
	Jujucece
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