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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Topic: Skull's variouse signatures (all WIP)
    Posted: 04 October 2007 at 4:10pm
Please critique, and give me Ideas for future sigs


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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2007 at 4:15pm
You'd probably get a better result not doing this as pixel art, tbh. There's nothing about it that really harnesses what pixel art has to offer for a piece..!

Apart from that it's quite hard to read the signature on it, since there's such low contrast. Also pure white is a very harsh colour to use as a background, i would avoid it. Perhaps you could have the lines building up and creating some sort of symbol in the centre?

Anyway, hope that helped!
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2007 at 4:22pm
... I see what you mean about the sig being hard to read, as for the low contrast and white background, I meant to do that, it's a soul, and I picture souls as being misty shapes... sorry if that made no sense ^^; anyways, I'll fix the signature part

Edited by Skull Master - 04 October 2007 at 4:23pm
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2007 at 4:28pm
Better? :


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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2007 at 5:03pm



Edited by Skull Master - 04 October 2007 at 5:04pm


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:44pm
Why are you not working on the hat >:(
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 05 October 2007 at 7:07pm
lol, I did. no one's repling XD


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 1:32pm
Here's a dragon that I'm planning to make into a sig, but, please critique the dragon first. :



leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 2:11pm
First, do you promise not to use that signature in PJ?



*siggys are distracting to pixel c+c
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 2:15pm
what's PJ? 


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 2:17pm
PixelJoint :p
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 2:59pm
XD oh, duh! yeah ok, I won't use it here.


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 3:25pm
Lightly AAd



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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 4:09pm
I wouldn't AA at this point unless you know what the BG (background) will be. Its just wasted effort.
Looks like you have the mouth, teeth and eyes to work on and let that determine where the flesh should go which will then let you know how the wings should go.
The idea there being that the facial expression will determine what look the flesh and wings need to enhance whatever expression you can carve up, ya noes?
Remember to use all the skills from the hat as you color.
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Quote MashPotato Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 5:10pm
Yay for non-huge sigs at PJ!

This is a nice start, I like the extreme perspective  I did a reeeeeally quick edit to show you some things I noticed (just as an illustration, because I surely didn't fix things well):
-the head, particularly in the nose area, seems a little warped
-if the light source is behind, there should be some stronger shading on the side (my shading is crap, don't use that as a guide )
-it could use some colours to differentiate different areas, for example, I added a dark shade to separate the tongue from the rest of the mouth



Hope this helps


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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 5:42pm
Ah, I see.



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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 6:53pm
This any better?



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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by jalonso


Looks like you have the mouth, teeth and eyes to work on and let that determine where the flesh should go which will then let you know how the wings should go


... I thought I finished at least the eyes teeth and mouth...


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 8:02pm
No way the eyes are almost flat. There is no wetness in them and the are ON the head not IN the head. The mouth looks better now.
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 8:16pm
Kay, I think I know how to fix the eye problem...



leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 8:23pm
I think I fixed the eye, also, I made the nostrell a lil' bigger, good?



leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2007 at 8:29pm

You should use the red you outline with for some shading of the very darkes bits; break up that large areas of the color that's one lighter than that outline color, such as the bottom of the jaw (the top of the neck) and maybe on the tail as well.


RPG is numberwang.
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 10:50am



leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 12:16pm
Nobody objects to helping out and you are trying hard to learn 'n'stuff', but...
you must really try to visualize verbal c+c because we don't always have the
time to make a visual comments and edits for you. When it comes down to it
you will be teaching yourself how to master pixelart techniques. Please try to
keep your dependence low, k. I'm not saying you're there or anything but...
...anyhoo, fun with your dragon. Roughly illustrating the last few comments
none of which you seem to have understood. High contrast is your friend : )




E:  I may have added colors?
Remember its better to  post with less updates that show more progress
than lots of  updats with little progress.  Hard work and patience always shows.


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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 12:27pm
Darker shaiding and less dipendant on you guys, I think I can handle that. Thanks! ;)


Edited by Skull Master - 07 October 2007 at 12:27pm


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 12:30pm
Not less dependence on us, more reliance, belief and confidence in yourself.
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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 12:39pm
So deep :'(
Nice edit too, Jal.
Anyway the horns are a little out of whack, anatomically.
Looks like: _ /
Should be: \ / 


Edited by BlackDragon - 07 October 2007 at 12:39pm
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 12:44pm
:p I knew that would come up sooner or later. XD Before I fix it, does anyone want me to change their disign?


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 12:49pm
I do. Horns and teeth are made of different things; horns are the same material as finger- and toenails, while teeth are bone. So figure out the color of his claws & horns and also make the ends of the horns stiffer like nails.

RPG is numberwang.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 1:02pm
yup, the horns may curve at the ends however you like but the should originate from the skull in a logical way. Like this.
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 2:25pm



leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 6:31pm



leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 8:22pm
I'm board, if I'm done, please give me some type of thing to draw...


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 8:52pm

What does your poor dragon do when it wants to land? Give the guy some legs!


RPG is numberwang.
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2007 at 10:03pm
^^ Not quite, I think I'll make it a wyrm, witch is a dragon with no legs, and no arms, I'll do it if you guys insist (2 more insisvive posts) , but otherwise, I think I'll keep this the way it is. 


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 12:46pm
Udate!!! :O :



Please critique! (Seed of evil)

Edit:


Edited by Skull Master - 21 October 2007 at 1:10pm


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 3:14pm
(insistive post)
 
If you hadn't told me what that red thing was I would have never guessed.
"A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 4:53pm
I think I should change it's color, to prevent more people thinking it's a human organ. XP


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 4:57pm
Thats actually what I thought it was.
I say change the design, make it say "I AM AN EVIL SEED!!!" :P
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 5:02pm
yeah, ok!

Oh, did you guys notice that I tried to make a skullish face in there? It's facing upward.


Edited by Skull Master - 21 October 2007 at 5:23pm


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 5:37pm
I think I see it.
Also, I had an idea: Make it sort of sprouted, and the plant part would be evil looking like a venus flytrap.
 
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 7:27pm
Update!:



Oh, and this was the face:



lol


Edited by Skull Master - 21 October 2007 at 8:15pm


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote Club Beuker Replybullet Posted: 22 October 2007 at 3:25am
Why don't you finish your pieces before making another one? Every piece I've seen from you isn't quite finished.

(Don't want to sound harsh here)

I know it's hard and sometimes boring work, and you have to put all of your effort in it (and then some) to really complete the art. But in the end it will be a huge relief and might even earn you some respect.

As a tip: Don't focus on one thing (being, the whole pic or details). When you work on the eye, focus on the eye. When you work on the mouth, focus on the mouth. When you've made changes, look at the whole piece and see if it fits.

After that, rinse and repeat 

And most important, have fun making it. Feel like you're going to learn something new (and you will everytime). So go ahead and finish that dragon first! (contrast is a virtue)

P.S. thanks to Hatch for that lesson
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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 23 October 2007 at 5:24am
You're right, exept for the hat.

Yeah, ok.

Sure! :p

I thought I finnished the dragon... ^^;

Huh? um... you're welcome...? ^^; :S


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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 27 October 2007 at 11:18pm
UPDATE!! :



(A new try at metal)


Edited by Skull Master - 27 October 2007 at 11:18pm


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 28 October 2007 at 11:34pm
Hi SkullMaster,

That last one looks cool!
It could use one more highlight
to get the shiny look.

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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 29 October 2007 at 5:25pm
Thanks! that meens a lot coming from a pro! ^^




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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 30 October 2007 at 5:28am
Oops, I forgot to fill one in, there we go. :





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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 30 October 2007 at 7:52am
Hi SkullMaster.

try to put it on a darker background instead of
white. It will make the rest of it stand out.
It might help the piece if you would select
a midtone between the highlights. The
pure white is too dominant.

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Quote Skull Master Replybullet Posted: 01 November 2007 at 8:10pm
I'll do that soon, but before I do, do I need to place the shaiding difriently?


leel: "At least I'm not claiming to a master in anything."

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