yes thats correct and the shadows will need to be changed also. I havent updated them (I only update them when I add changes, and mirror it). Its just for me to get more of a complete image of the mech. To see if things work and to see what I still need to do.

But thanks I guess it could have been forgotten, but in this case I havent got to the point yet as the views I flipped itself arent even finished yet. When I finish those I will flip them again and recolour for the light and shadows.

Been working hard on fixing the shapes to all become as exact as possible. Like the anatomy for each of them to match each other. Dont know if that makes any sence.

Everyone has been really helpfull so far I cant express how awsome community Pixel Joint is but I'm defenitly gonna stick around here to one day become as sick as some of you guys!

Ive been thinking about the articulation..


1. Under the hood
2. The leg joint that makes the leg able to move and turn back and forward
3. The top of the bar under the round leg joint will end up at this hight with a flat top
4.  The end of these legs have a small cillinder, wich makes it able to extend a little, and move back once it hits the ground (suspension).
5. The leg and feet would pretty much end up 100% horizontally.. wich looks weird, but if the toes (and possibly the foot) move down like a birds feet and toes it will look awsome. Beside, theres alot of room for those toes to move this way!

Didnt really know what to do with the views today. Worked this out and by the replies in this thread so far I tought some of you might find this info interesting and/or usefull.


Edited by Qemist - 17 September 2011 at 8:29am

Hey Chris,

thanks for your reply. Is this replying to the old walking cycle I made?
So you are saying I need to make it walk, then after I did make it walk in spot? I tought there was no other way for this kind of game then to make it walk in spot and just slide it to another tile?

Im curious to see what you are on and open for any advice always :) thanks for your reply.

Edit: ah yeah.. you're saying move it forward.. then once the animation is right put it all in 1 place to use for the game.

Thanks! totally understand gonna give it a try once animation comes!


Edited by Qemist - 19 September 2011 at 1:26am

so far the back and front view have been the hardest for me to do.. again with the edited variant I cant get them to look cool. Any ideas? Feel free to help by doing a little edit too its all cool.

Made a quick riotation spin to double check on sizes etc. The back one is most obvious of kneeling down but I have no idea what to extend to make it look better??

I didnt know this was actually a excellent thread but thanks for the compliment! To me it looks more like a junkyard with all the crap I put out so far haha

Im aware of the black outlines and all of the new views still need to be finished (including the one that looks pretty good). My main concern is the shapes when it comes to isometry. Are they acurate? Im having trouble with the back view if it needs to stand on the same tile, it will look like its smaller. Maybe its the legs, but how to fix them to look good? Been trying for a while now and just like last time I cant do it right.

Front view is also something Ive been struggeling with to get the same depth into it. Compared to the other sides this looks rather weird and inacurate.

Wich is what I would like to hear solutions for fixing it. So I know the designs can be better, but before polishing it like a mad man I want to get this all to be acurate. I'd love to add some mounted armor plates and such but with the perspective problem I think its hard enough as it is for now. Adding more detail is just gonna make me more

Right now I'm just working on the code a bit and hopefully when I return to it I can see whats off..

Edit: for fun I just put all the concepts next to each other and think in the last 30 days I think I learned alot and am doing perhaps better then I feel.




Edited by Qemist - 21 September 2011 at 4:53am

Thanks! It sure has been a lot of work so far! The guns are tempolary, I want them to be bigger in width and have some sort of crystal ball in it.

Ive started on the animation of the best looking view just because I didnt make any progress on the angles today. Its work in progress and the legs are wireframes I drew quickly and started to improve but not perfect yet at all! Its also pretty fast moving and only has a few frames. Need time to improve it but take a quick peek :)



sneaky edit: forgot to mention alot of the work for the animation I did was create folders within photoshop with all the parts split up and having their own folder. In that folder they all have their frames (so left leg folder has layers with names 1, 2 and so on. Made things alot easier to render quickly and refer to close layers and see where the leg or whatever needs to be!)



Edited by Qemist - 21 September 2011 at 3:27pm

Hes saying its not unpossible, but its hard to do. So hes stimulating my progress by saying leave it for now, as it can always be done later. And who knows time will tell.

Hey Mase,

I have the same thing.. it might be the round yellow/orange thing at the front that makes it feel like that. Honestly, I have no idea where its going right now but I do know that:

1. It wasnt intended to make this a mech game, but yet it should have robot movement and such.

2. My initial plan started with the name "Battle Bots".. or well.. thats the name that came up in to mind when I was thinking about the entire concept. Ofcourse, the name is way too cheesy but the concept should remain the same.

3. The idea was to make it look cartoony rather then uberrealistic. Reasons are my freedom in creativity and pixelart totally suiting the design style.

As for degrading its probably gonna be hard. Thinking about it, what wont be? haha. Obviously something that ive been thinking of so far and I'd rather keep it polished so to make it more textured that might be a cool solution.

Starting to realise if I actually get the base of this game down I might need to look into having a few people to help me out.. as all of this is so time consuming. Then again I'm relatively new to the art so maybe in the future things will be easier.


Edited by Qemist - 22 September 2011 at 10:57am

I'd recommend you add detail on that small platform that the legs are attached to. it looks too.. simple and flat.
also, wheres the cockpit?

Riotation Test.. one big lulz 

I liked where the cockpit was before. It was at the top of the head so it made sense design wise and yet it wasn't that noticeable so your eyes were drawn to the orange spheres at the front which resembled eyes. And I think that those orange spheres were the best part, it made the mech look like it could be a creature all on it's own, like it's some kind of new species of animal. And I've always loved that in mechs.

is it true that .png makes images darker if you save on the same the file over and over? This might be the problem for my colours to act weird..

Thanks dude! Yeah just listen to what poeple have to say one of the main reasons why I'm here right!

I'm really enjoying the project so far. Little struggle here and there but cant wait till I get some demo up and running to have some fun with. You know, designing the main game lobby and such after the basic mech can walk and all. Awsome!

I got a cool teleporter idea from glass (yes, in game it would have transparancy) that closes when you step in an activate it. A lightning would go up and down or something, once it goes up it would take away the transparancy or something

Love it, thanks again for all the replies!

Finally have some time on my hands. Obviously got scammed (last post, link) and felt really bad about it.

Been trying to learn the more complex style most people on here seem to have mastered, or working on mastering it.

Heres a wip of what I got:

Maybe you could make the legs look more like "mechanical" and add detail in where the knees are supposed to be or are the legs meant to be like without rotating knees?

ahh, okay it's like that. Though there is something with the shadows or am I talking nonsense?

I showed it to my friend, and he says that maybe more contrast and stronger shading to the feet/legs. EDIT: like there is on the top part of the mech
For me it looks nice but I'm no expert in pixel art


Edited by Reppis - 18 May 2012 at 8:37am

Thanks, I will work on the lines of the shapes of the legs a bit more to hopefully be able to make use the shadow colours from the top. (it didnt look right before)

As for the guns I'm pretty sure you're right. I'll have to fix that too!

Anyone else any tips, tricks or suggestions?

working on the animation for a bit :)


Edited by Qemist - 21 May 2012 at 4:51am

This is progressing well. I think the mech design would really benefit from removing the platform attached to the legs and have them connect to the body of the mech directly. There is also something about the colors on the legs compared to the mech where they aren't quite matching up.

Perhaps make the platform smaller and circular instead of rectagular? I think the legs need more of the silver color, and consequencely less light highlights.

Full WIP sheet can be found here


Edited by Qemist - 04 June 2012 at 1:32pm

We've paid for a freelancer to finish the job. Incase you are actually interested in playing the game we are expecting to launch around august.
You can sign up for a beta notification mail on our website METAonline.com

Thanks for all the help on this topic! Really appreciated!


Edited by Qemist - 27 June 2012 at 2:08pm