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Quote a3um Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 2:37am
@Wuhu - Great expressions :)

@Mrmo Tarius - Kinda weird RPG party :D

@Chibiwing - nice, but I'd suggest add more contrast to define objects' volume. I made an edit to illustrate my point:


1. Darken the background. 2 Brighten the metal highlights, made them almost white. 3, 4 added shadows to the lid and casing to define shapes, and make it pop out. 5. Darken the casing color on the shadow part of the chest. 6 Darken the bottom of candle so it doesn't look flat.
Also, imo, those lines on chest are distracting from actual contrast and volume. I hope that will help :)

UPDATE: Luckily, Mrmo Tarius made an edit regarding table stuff :D

!emit etadpu, oslA



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Quote wuhu Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 2:54am
@Chibi yea.. i have to find out how to refine it
@a3um thx man.. yours is looking great as usual
@CELS ooooh thats what u mean


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Quote Mrmo Tarius Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 3:20am
Well, I submitted mine.
Also great edits there, a3um. And your piece is shaping up well, I love how the wax looks like... wax :D
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Quote baah Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 4:42am
Very, very impressive work by you all!
Voting will be, as usual, very hard with only three choices.
 
Also, i tried to continue the head of my frightened guy, but everything's wrong. Let's face it I must get my hand on much simpler things before! So i leave the challenge... :(
 
If someone wants to take over the dynamite "idea", please do!
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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 6:07am
a3um, that's very awesome.


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Quote ThePixelKnight Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 6:45am
Another update, Ive done the hand and most of the face. :)

@a3um yours is looking great and I love the atmosphere, and I like the edits you made to chibiwing's wip.
@ CELS Yours is looking great too, I like the perspective of the brickwork and the spooky eyes in the background. :)


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Quote baah Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 6:58am
@CELS: i expected the hood to be left black, or showing only the eyes...
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Quote ThePixelKnight Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 8:15am
Another update, nearly finished. :)



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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 11:49am
You guys are epicly amazing; thank you soooooo much for the help!  I have close to zero experience with shadow and I'm afraid of contrast, so this is extremely helpful. *ten billion hugs*  Do I just use the edits or something, or how do I do this?  I mean, I'm not, like, plagerizing or something if I use them, right?
 
I have so much left to do. -.-  I'm planning on a Mario totem pole, a Zelda themed wooden staff, a Tetris mobile, and standing Pong mirror, and a Pacman round mirror that'll sit in the chest.  All of this would be a lot easier if my tablet hadn't broken before I started doing pixel art.
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Quote neofotistou Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 4:42pm


Brilliant stuff you guys! Here's my WIP, a chiaroscuro scene, since candles are so ideal for these kinds of things.
17 colors. Any objections/crits?



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Quote Muiriled Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 9:49pm
Hi guys. can the candle fire magic missiles that when exploding creates fluorescent tubes that enlight the scene? :D Damn, the challenge is looking so normal now..
Anyways i'm not sure i'll have the time to end this for the challenge but here's the wip.
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Not so readable yet...
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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 10:17pm
Looking cool, Mui. <3
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Quote Muiriled Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 11:12pm
Man don't be discouraged like that, search for refferences when you don't know how to continue. and simpler things helps you to learn, but sometimes the complexes ones teach you faster. Also don't compare your work with the ones of people who may have many years working on graphics or even pixelart. compare it with your previous works and try to improve. I'm not seeing nothing wrong with your work except that the guy is holding a dinamite instead of the candle required in the challenge :D you can fix it easily by adding a candle to ignite it. anyways the wicks don't light almost anything. i'll see if i can find the time for a quickly edit but go trying something ;)
And sorry.. my english must stink..
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Quote Muiriled Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 11:21pm
Thanks chibi, your work is also looking very good so far.            
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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 12:19am
Muiriled, I'm very glad that you posted your early WIP in such an unpolished state, so I can learn how good pixel artists start their work process. Your use of colours is also very fascinating, I look forward to seeing the next update.

The only things I would do different are the nostrils of the big creature. The nostrils are so big that they look almost like ears. It's a stylistic choice though.
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Quote drlemon Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 7:50am
 
 
My crap WIP, i think. I have no clue where to go with this. All your submissions are amazing. The only tool i have is MSpaint. Feedback, anyone?


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Quote neofotistou Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 8:02am
Sure, drlemon. Ok, if you have a candle in the middle of the room, which is brighest? The candle, which is the lightsource, or the room around it? Why is the candle yellow/red and its glow white? It makes no sense. Check photo references on the internet, and then come back and choose gradated colors, going from yellow to black. 4 or 5 should be enough
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Quote Alex Pang Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 11:19am
Ok I'm in looks like fun :D
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Quote baah Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 11:40am
@Muiriled: thank you for your encouragments... I got again my hand on the image, but as i said earlier all in it is fake : dynamite and "head" were made with the raytracer PoV, then dithered with a homebrew program and reworked a bit by hand. The background is also processed with my program. But you're right, even if it's disqualified for many reasons (dynamite whom i was quite proud of as a "last light", using programs...) i'll try to finish it.



You're also right when saying i should not compare with others' work, they are simply IMPRESSIVE (yours included)!


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Quote Night Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 3:00pm
I am probably not going to finish this, but w/e.
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Quote Alex Pang Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 3:04pm
Woah!!!!
Awesome!
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Quote Geoglatico Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 4:49pm
this is my entry for the challenge, I hope to finish the time!


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Quote AirStyle Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 4:57pm
Flame look a little too small and subdued for the statue of liberty. From looking at the different WIPs here, I would say that the main focus should be the candle itself. Try to make the torch a little more outstanding: pull the focus back to the torch and off of lady liberty.
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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 09 September 2011 at 5:56pm
Baah, I love the latest version. Reminds me of Little Big Adventure. However, I don't know why you would use programs to the dithering. It seems to defeat the purpose of pixel art, if you're just applying a filter.
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Quote Night Replybullet Posted: 10 September 2011 at 1:27am
@Alex Pang Thanks. =)
Another wip.
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edit*
Never mind, I am probably going to finish it. :P

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Quote baah Replybullet Posted: 10 September 2011 at 2:59am
@LBPixels & Geoglatico: please do finish them!
@CELS: thanks, and you're right about pixel art...
When trying to submit, one can read "6. Any art you post should be PIXEL ART! Pixel art implies that each pixel is placed by hand (no filters, paintbrushes, gradient fills, etc)."
So my piccy just can't qualify for the contest and i have my answer, i'm not doing pixel art, sorry for annoying you. In fact, being a programmer i'm more into finding algorithms to imitate pixel art (my program is here: http://abrobecker.free.fr/fab/fab.htm and will be updated at the end of the WE).

Seeing you all in action is marvellous though and i love what you do...
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Quote Muiriled Replybullet Posted: 10 September 2011 at 7:37am
@CELS: Thanks man, but i'm a newbie at pixel art yet, I just have some background in other graphic arts that helps me here. I need a lot yet to acquire an accuracy level such as Tarius for example. As for the colors I take as a base this workof tomic and added some others to fit my own insanity :D Also i'm a very disordered worker so i'm not sure that's the appropiate way to do it, but again thanks .I'm glad to receive such a comment for a skilled pixelartist like you. Your work is looking relly good so far too.
@baah: Hey your work is looking good. I don't know how raytrace works but i supose it makes the dithering thing. you can use it as a base for doing something by your own. As i say before 'search for some references' for dithering in this case. just keep in mind that giving up is finishing behind the last. other people won't but you'll know it and that's worst. Sorry i didn't had time to make some edit for you but i'm glad (and you may too) to see you don't really need it isn't it? I didn't had any time to pixel until just now. Anyways let me know if you need some help. So far the only thing i'd add in your work is a little bit more of lighting in the dinamite's corner as a spark's reflection. Good luck and keep the hard work!
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Quote Alex Pang Replybullet Posted: 10 September 2011 at 8:29am
Done

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Quote baah Replybullet Posted: 10 September 2011 at 2:45pm
@Alex: very nice light effect!
@Muiriled: thank you for your encouragments. What CELS and you said is enough to cheer me up, but my work will be refused since it's no pixel art, so it's too late for this one piece of drawing... But the kindness/expertise found in this forum is enough to make me want to come back with real pixel art! :)
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_tracing_(graphics) don't do the dithering, my software does. The difference with other software is that i have fine control over what i'm doing and i can choose the dithering:

1. nearest neighbourgs
2. random dithering
3. ordered dithering 2x1 (vertical lines)
4. ordered1x2 (hlines)
5. ordered 2x2 with classic pattern (Bayer)
6. ordered 3x3 with bubble matrix
7. ordered 4x4 with classic pattern
8. ordered 4x4 with diagonals
9. floyd steinberg (error diffusion)
10. stucki (error diffusion)
 
I used 2;3 and 7 for the picture above.


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Quote Muiriled Replybullet Posted: 10 September 2011 at 7:14pm
@baah: Hey that looks like a good software. Will become handy for some people NOT AROUND :P
See you later then.
















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Quote surt Replybullet Posted: 11 September 2011 at 6:15pm
Chances are I won't get this finished:

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Quote GreyScale Replybullet Posted: 11 September 2011 at 6:16pm
Wow. I have to say I hope you do, because that's already very pretty. *-*
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