You can't use any tool that does something you wouldn't be able to get PERFECTLY IDENTICAL results with using the pencil tool at 100% opacity and with antialiasing off. So if you apply any filter, or use the smudge, smear, dodge, burn, rotate (by angles not multiples of 90^o tool, you're not going to be able to submit it to the gallery.  

Mirroring is allowed but doesn't always look good. The lineart can be mirrored then colored so that the lightsource goes in the same direction. Sometimes straight out mirroring is OK on shmups, imo.

Do you think his is accept worthy?

It's nice, but also very small and a fairly simple. If you have some other guns in that style, you could include them in that image. I'm sure it'll get approved then.

Yeah, you're free to use it as your avatar. Everyone can see it.

No we cant watch them, Yes its weird that tough guys was not accepted, and the score thing means that too many people voted no in the public queque. I dont know why they did so, I voted yes myself, but the mods just could not let it enter with so many people who voted no.

@greenraven: I don't get it. My pictures are pixel art according to any criteria people have spelled out to me, and they're all <256 colours.

Does this mean there's no point in having the pictures there? I was kind of happy as long as they were in the "queue" or whatever, so people could see them. Being accepted into your club is not such a big thing for me, but I posted the pictures so that people could watch them if they like them. I thought maybe "pixeljoint" would be a place people would actually appreciate the work that goes into pixel graphics, more than most demoscene graphicians these days.

A.B., you don't have to be level 2 to view the queue, only to vote yes or no.

I agree sondre, it's a shame so many voted no, but maybe you can have a thread in diversions and post them there? They really were beautiful.

I was originally writing this up in response to NotSure's rants in another thread but it also applies to this one:

Fellas, gals, and pixie pony dustesses or whatevers,

First and foremost it was mentioned that colour limitations should not matter. Well it does. If you want to use every and any colour possible without limitations, why are you on this site? Why try pixel art at all? Open up your Photoshop or whatever it is you use and spraypaint and smudge and whatnot to your hearts content, just don't submit it to this site.

Pixeljoint does not tell people what to do with their lives and their art. We just tell people that this site has set guidelines on what one can submit. There are a ton of other sites out there waiting for you if you choose you don't like the guidelines we set.

Secondly, pixel art has evolved out of the old school platforms.

I find that there are two kinds of artists joining up on this site:
1) artists that want to conform to a set of technical limitations

2) artists that used to conform to limitations that were imposed because of the technical aspect in the medium of which they worked on.

in the latter, it seems that the focus is on the art itself and not the medium in which it's presented. Again, there are other ways to present this art instead of calling it pixel art (as one might have in the old days)

in the former, I find that these are artists looking to gain some insight into the retro days of gaming as well as pushing the artistic scope by limiting their pallettes and whatnot. THIS is the focus of the site in my opinion.

Thoughts? Comments? Jal, I know you've something to add

I think the ones who know what they're talking about as PA which we know is NPA (in our terms) don't like the fact we have labelled pixelart in a different way to themselves or others. They forget that because of this other people should respect our views as a community and follow our guidelines if they wish to participate in the site.

If they wished to submit a complaint or suggestion for improvement there are appropriate ways to do so, most of the time they don't want to know.

Sondre, most of your pieces seemed fine to me, but they were just so insanely cool, most people couldn't tell how they were made, despite you explaining to them.  The tough guys wasn't accepted because it was unfinished, sending it back was really a call for you to finish it off.  You should try resubmitting your work, see what happens.