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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 31 August 2006 at 4:47pm
Originally posted by tomster 785

I don't know why, but I feel like pointing out all of the reused colors:
cloud -> water
sun -> kraken
 
and thats all
LMAO Oh the comedy.
 
As for the image, the new waves seem drastically differrent than the old ones. Ace sunset, though.
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 31 August 2006 at 5:33pm
Stop f**ukin around and concentrate.
That was the most awesome censorship ever.
 
ANYWAYS, some crits. I'm sure you know, but at the moment the two depictions of yer water there are a little... not the same. The further-away water seems extremely choppy and tumultuous and stuff (lookit the horizon), though the water at the ship and Kraken seems not nearly so rabid.
 
I feel like a whirlpool would suit the mood, right beyond the ship.
 
Also, on the horizon, take a look at how Jal used the lighter shade for the sky, an' then dithered into the darkest. Iunno 'zactly what that did, but it's working for me and would prolly be a good example to follow.
 
An' I'm with Aleiav and the cloud-water colourness.
 
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Quote Morgan Replybullet Posted: 31 August 2006 at 10:15pm
This is a really cool piece. That said, I think the first version is compositionally stronger (with the exception of the flipped tentacle).
 
Now you've got the horizon line nearly intersecting the ship's head, and the detail in the waves distracting from the Vikings, and lightning distracting from the Kraken + startled Viking... I dunno, maybe I'm just easily distracted. But I'd love to see this with the simple sky + horizon line of the first version.


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Quote ryumaru Replybullet Posted: 01 September 2006 at 8:48pm
reflection of warm light from sun and bolts? yes no maybe so?
of course done better but you get the point.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 01 September 2006 at 9:19pm
ew, i dont like that at all...  besides, lightning doesnt just leave a little glow, it illuminates the entire cloud
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 01 September 2006 at 10:47pm
I was thinking something along these lines:

Thanks to the God of Lighting Knowledge lawrence for the helpful suggestion.  I also got rid of the sunset, which is for the best.  Added another color to address Aleiiav's crit as well.
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 01 September 2006 at 11:10pm
The lightning really helps make it look different. Coming along nice. :)
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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 02 September 2006 at 1:17am
Wow @ 0 @ That looks so AWESOME! I love the lightning bolts and the reflections on the clouds. Also, Kraken looks so cute for some reason, haha. Mm, snack.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 02 September 2006 at 6:07am
looks much better without the sunset.  and the subtle glow looks better then what i thought it would when you use the white
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Quote buloght Replybullet Posted: 04 September 2006 at 11:20am
Ha, first post :).

I just had to say, I've been following your thread for a while, it's looking fantabulous!
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2006 at 12:54pm
I am honored that buloght's first post is on my topic.
Another little update for my peeps:

I'm working on those damned waves at the moment, such a dull and monotonous task, working on the dripping water from the tentacles, as well.
C+C is still very welcome.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2006 at 11:40pm
Oh man, you took Buloght's forumvinity, I'm jelaous!

ps: looking good!
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 19 September 2006 at 7:19pm
Sorry about the long breaks, school takes up alot of time, deal.
Almost finished with the waves, changed some colors for more brightitude, perhaps creating too much contrast between the two darkest colors used on the boat?

Might do a mast, not sure yet.  We'll see how it works out.
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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 19 September 2006 at 7:30pm
Huzzah! An update!
It looks great.
I think the boat would benifit from having some water dripping on it. To emphasize the movement and clashing of the waves.
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Quote alkaline Replybullet Posted: 19 September 2006 at 7:31pm
It's aboot time!

Change the colors back, looks better as old IMO. too bright compared to the rest. i also find the water very busy and a mess, I wouldn't know how to alleviate this however but it just doesn't work for me. so keep it up!
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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 19 September 2006 at 7:32pm
Bah! You're crazy. It's stormy water, a stormy sea. It works fine, IMO.
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 19 September 2006 at 8:49pm

No words can describe.

Not even ones linking the concept of orgasm to a pixelling technique.
 
Screw stars, I award you 300 hearts and a box of chocolates.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 19 September 2006 at 11:29pm
The water is looking amazing too me. I do wonder if halfdemon has a point about the boat not being affected by the water so much now? I think the color change is marginal, either way looks good.

@ sab, how about krakentastic?
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 20 September 2006 at 8:41am

Omg alk the new colours are amazing. I think it's much more dramatic with the high saturation of the main characters.

It does look great. Now i'm thinking the sky is a bit plain next to the rough seas though... i think the uniform-looking clouds with the realistic style sea is what's wrong perhaps... You might be able to fill up some space in the sky with a moon or such.. Keep it up!

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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 20 September 2006 at 10:28am
I changed the colors back, with the exception of a brighter yellow, for now.  I'll worry about the colors at the end.  I'll see what I can do about both the kraken and the boat being affected more by the water.  I agree with you, Lar, It had a cartoony style to it, until I made a more realistic sea,  I'll dabble with the clouds at some point, probably.
As for now, here's a WIP of a sail!

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 20 September 2006 at 2:30pm
That looks awesome, but the dithering is very abrupt, maybe use some besides 50%?

RPG is numberwang.
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Quote alkaline Replybullet Posted: 20 September 2006 at 7:07pm
yes, well it's either the water or everything else...i find too much of a difference between detail and cartoon style.. water alone it looks great..the characters are good too...
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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 20 September 2006 at 7:36pm
I actually really like the mix between realism and cartoony. It makes a unique style. I believe the dithering at the end needs work; it's far too noticable, at least in my opinion.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 20 September 2006 at 10:20pm
Liking the sail a lot. I will ask again, is the black gonna become a dark brown/red? *wink, wink*. I'll leave the sky comments for later.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 21 September 2006 at 9:06am
i think his black outlines are kinda a style that fits him, but i could be wrong, it not like something he has ever made with black out lines has ever gotta a good rating

*COUGH**COUGH*

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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 21 September 2006 at 9:19am
Put that trophy back where you found it, young man.

We'll see, jal.  I'll be tweaking and playing around with it plenty, so it is a possibility.  It has just occured to me that without you suggestions this would be an entirely different piece.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 21 September 2006 at 11:24am
That is a good thing , right?
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 21 September 2006 at 11:57am
Unless you'd prefer the vikings heading toward a castle atop a hill on a sunny day, yes, a very good thing.
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 23 September 2006 at 3:39pm
So glad to see the waves in all of the water! Looking very awesome. :D
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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 23 September 2006 at 3:58pm
I just want to add that although the sail is sweet, it seems to be in a different perspective than the boat.
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 28 September 2006 at 7:54pm
the water now get darker toward the horizon- still WIP
theres now a moon
highlights on back of the boat
wave splashing against kraken
sail is improved- may change the perspective.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 29 September 2006 at 8:40am
The moon is a great added detail. The water looks even better than before. The sail looks fine to me. The oar thats just floating could use a little breaking up on the lineart. The bottom edge could use a bit of a broken line its too staight. The sky dithering is the only problem now. It does not quite match the rest. I wouldn't overdo the pixelling on the sky tho. Leaving it as white space to rest the eye is fine here.
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 29 September 2006 at 12:49pm
Although it is nice to have a less busy area, as jalonso stated, I think that for logic's sake, you should at least add a few dim stars.

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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 02 October 2006 at 8:24am

Its finally at the point where I find myself feeling generally satisfied with the piece.
Added some stars, redid the dithering on the sky, shaded the kraken with the darkest blue, finished (?) detailing the water.

If I have made any changes that you feel don't work, please point them out.


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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 02 October 2006 at 12:31pm
The host you used is kind of funky and won't show the pic. Maybe you could rehost it somewhere else?

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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 02 October 2006 at 12:37pm
Its photobucket, but I often have problems logging in to the forums so I use a proxy, that may be where the problem lies.  Let me see if I can't fix that.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 02 October 2006 at 1:22pm
I dont like the fact the farther boat wall is only one pixel away from the other (apart from the outlines). I think one pixel more would be better.. :/
 
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 02 October 2006 at 10:23pm
Lar, I think thats a remmant from when it was a more cartoony piece. You are right of course, but I don't think it detracts from the piece.
 
Cure, Looks great and complete, submit
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 02 October 2006 at 10:31pm
Hahaha, NEVER submit! It'd get too many favorites. Faar too many. System-error quantities, here. Hell, even blind people would visit pixeljoint and be able to FEEL the wickedawesomeness!
 
Having said that, I do have some thoughts.
 
The horizon still seems scrappy, because of the contrast (can't really be avoided, what with the palleteness, I suppose) and the non-fading-to-horizonitty. I feel like the waves should be getting smaller an smaller (to a greater extent) as zee olde distance increases. Perhaps I am dead wrong.
 
On a final note, the very front of the ship is not black-outlined, and virtually everything else is.
 
Everything other than that causes my salivary glands to kick in to overdrive. Cure for the win, somoene throw money at him!
 
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 02 October 2006 at 10:35pm
i hate you and your mad skills
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2006 at 12:33pm
^submitted.
Its been another helpful wip thread, thanks to all for the c+c.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2006 at 1:00pm
about time, prepare for another monthly top...  this time i predict 2nd place :D
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2006 at 1:10pm

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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2006 at 1:13pm
wait in line, honey 
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2006 at 1:16pm
Why form a line?  There's enough to go around.
 
2nd place?  Quite a lofty prediction.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2006 at 1:20pm
if you get second place or higher, you owe me fan art.  if not, i owe you fan art...  do you take the bet? 

*holds out hand and awaits shake to seal the deal*
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2006 at 1:24pm
Alright ens, I accept your offer.
 
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