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Quote Pixelator Replybullet Posted: 28 April 2007 at 10:33am
As you pointed out Jalonso. The buildings, excluding the megaman one, could do with a bit of destroying. And maybe you could have a fire on one to add an extra light source. That is if you aren't on a restricted pallette.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 28 April 2007 at 5:49pm
Thx Lar and Cliffo :D

So the band likes the explosion alot so were going with it. This here update shows the main area of destruction caused by the main explosion. I'm wondering how much action to have going on, other than fires here and there :/


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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 28 April 2007 at 6:19pm
a) debris, debris, debris...
b) outer damage...  from an explosion like that, there would be a ton of cracks, warping, and more broken windows.
c) the building on the left would have a nearly caved in roof
d) and yes, some fire and charring :D

lookd good so far.  is this the inside of the cd cover?
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 2:39pm
thx ens, I kinda knew all that but I know mst will be covered so I didn't sweat it yet. Yes, this is the inside of the CD case.
This update is the first 'scrappy' version. I'll be cleaning it up so if something looks way off or just wrong/bad please let me know :)
 


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Quote Saint Minor Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 3:17pm
Woah! That is a huge difference, i don't know where to start.

Brilliant, can't wait to see the final album


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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 3:17pm
wow, that comment helped him alot...

jal, i think the fire may be a bit too bright for my tastes.  you lose alot of the detail of the buildings.  i would tone it down just a smidgen
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 3:21pm
Maybe take some of the blue out of the fire too.  It's not fully convincing because you have a relatively cool color(murplish pink) next to a very warm color(jelloes).

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Quote ceddo Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 3:32pm
Brilliant in every way I could imagine!!!

... except the charring isn't very convincing :)
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Quote Shaun Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 4:20pm
It's great, but I think there's a bit too much contrast in the latest one with the fire. Or maybe it's just me.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 6:13pm
@Saint, thx I got what you meant :)
@P_O, I think I have to keep the blue hued pink for the time being. This too will get a gradient (blue) to match the outside cover.
@ I see what you mean but will wait to tone it down. I have to add the guy in the skimask hanging from a rope over the right side (big iso not to scale) plus the gradient may tone it down. I can always bring details back in if needed...I'll bear your c+c in mind for later.
@Shaun, yet, its contrasty still cuz I haven't dithered all that much :)

I will go pixel push this to make it nice and clean now...


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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 8:31pm
Jal, stay calm, but.. I think your pixel exploded!


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Quote Setzer Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2007 at 11:38pm
that is f**king awesome
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Quote Rodder Replybullet Posted: 30 April 2007 at 11:32pm
DAMN dude. I know I love most of your art....but this is just sick.

..and I haven't even read the whole thread yet to see what's going on.
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 01 May 2007 at 12:54am
now, how many people on Pixeljoint want to buy that CD just to have that case? 
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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 01 May 2007 at 5:05pm
... It took me a while to register that as pixle art. I thought for a long second that that was your reference photo. However, good sh** man!
 
There really "clumped together" areas of the fire (where there's a lot of pure white) are too bright and distract me from the buildings.
 
And yes, I would buy thios CD just for the cover.
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 01 May 2007 at 7:51pm
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2007 at 5:11am
@ leel, 
@demon, I'm in the precess of fixing that atm, update soon
@Metaru, I promise once the CDs are complete to post a link to the band's site so that you can have a jal original in chili-land
@Ros and setz, thanks
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2007 at 1:00pm
the explosion =
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I dunno how you do it and I don't think I'll ever fathom.
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2007 at 2:49pm
i don't ever knew of the protomens jal, you know... and i don't ever want to know about them... but, just for curiosity, what style do they perform? something like minibosses maybe?
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2007 at 3:57pm
I would totally buy this CD. Keep up the gorgeous work jalonsososososo great. :D
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2007 at 7:43pm
@Metaru, I don't know much about this band at all. It all started on the job threads. Sounded like a fun thing to do and I somehow ended up helping them out. Their shows and music get inspiration from megaman so they wanted pixelart for their CD. I've never done a pixelart CD so we all win :D

Still touching up the fires update very soon...

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Quote AdrianJensen Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2007 at 11:24pm
holy hell.

that's awesome.
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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2007 at 12:55am
critique!
i think the fire might be a bit tóo evenly spread in the buildings.
allso, make some f the iron bars glow from the heat.
 
allsoes. when done, tell us where to buy and listen.
 
 
edit: kvik sursh givz:
 


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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2007 at 12:30pm
Megaman? that's why the name... Now that explains why the cover, now i have TWO big reasons to give'em a try.
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Quote Skull Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2007 at 12:37pm
Originally posted by Larwick

I would totally buy this CD. Keep up the gorgeous work jalonsososososo great. :D


I seriously would too.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 12:50pm
Almost complete BG:

pixel version


hybrid version


Now comes the really hard part for me, the figure
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Quote Serendor Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 3:00pm
oh really... compared to the fire I think its a pice of cake

really nice man!

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 3:02pm
The pixel one is amazing, but on the hybrid, I think a bit more subtle of a purple tint would be better; right now it looks as if you're seeing the fire through a purple cloud and it doesn't seem to work so well as a way to create a focus for the piece (your intention, I assume).

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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by Monkey 'o Doom

The pixel one is amazing, but on the hybrid, I think a bit more subtle of a purple tint would be better; right now it looks as if you're seeing the fire through a purple cloud and it doesn't seem to work so well as a way to create a focus for the piece (your intention, I assume).

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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by jalonso

hybrid version


hypocrite  
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 6:09pm
Hmmm this looks good on both really.
What makes the second NPA? Filters or layers?


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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 8:19pm
Originally posted by Ensellitis

Originally posted by jalonso

hybrid version


hypocrite  


he'll only be a hypocrite if he tries to upload the hybrid to the gallery.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 9:25pm
thanks for defending me madam ;)

So what do y'all say? I based it on a megaman sprite since that's the theme. hence the huge feet and hands. I wonder if its way too big and blocking too much of the BG?

@MoD, as usual you are correct, is this blue gradient better?




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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 9:43pm
Only anime can pull off inaccurate proportions.
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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2007 at 9:47pm
I really like the character, except for the weird face mask thing. Also, I think his shirt needs a definite color change. The gradient looks a lot better now, good job.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 6:11am
Hm, in some ways he looks like a giant lying down on the top of the building... not a huge problem though, cus it does look like he's swinging on the rope too. Anyway, awesome, keep it up, i am lazy so i have no proper crits.
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 8:11am
Originally posted by Pixel_Outlaw

Only anime can pull off inaccurate proportions.

ever heard of caricatures? XP I did one last week and I pulled it off


I like it, Jal, now clean it up!

btw, his left wrist is too fat, imo.  Keep the hand as big as it is but the wrist starts too high and looks awkward


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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 8:23am
Yeah, the blue is a lot better, and the character's great. I think it might be neat to have some red-tinted highlights as if from the fire on him, though, as they'd look awesome and tie him into the rest of the scene.

RPG is numberwang.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 2:55pm
Thanks guys, you all have truly helped so far :D

outside art, now with white sneakers



inside art with new suggestions and smaller just for larwick ;)

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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 3:18pm
Love the red tint, but his right eye is bugging me. It's very distracting.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 4:21pm
dude, I feel the same way about the eye. I tried darkening and that isn't it :/

Something looks messed up with the blues on the forum, looked OK on my file, urghhhh
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 4:29pm
It's because there is an inward bump where the tearduct would be.
Right hand has 3 fingers left has 4.


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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 4:31pm

Yeah, I think it's the block of light blue.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 4:34pm
yup...gonne a fixin'

five fingers on both hands...not well drawn but 5 :'(
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Quote dragonrc Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 4:51pm
Tried to edit the eye.
And you're right about the forum doing something to the colours, the blue looks different here...
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 6:52pm
there's too much detail in the eye...

but overall, this is looking good, the wrist looks better now, guess it was just the colors.  And it does look less like he's a giant on the roof :P  KUTGW.

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Quote AdrianJensen Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 10:42pm
maybe if you made the rope trail off a little more and get smaller at the end, it would add more perspective and make him not look like a giant.

beastly colors dude.
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 06 May 2007 at 10:51pm
The luminosity of the flesh is kind of clashing with the colors there.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2007 at 9:32pm
Thanks for the edit dragonrc. Unfortunately this figure is all waste and seems destined to go into the black hole that is my harddrive. The band does not like it, their thoughts:

hey dude.
sorry about the delay in getting back to you. things have been crazy this weekend. i'll get you a picture of the shoes and ski mask tonight hopefully. i like the updated cover with the shoes and the door ajar. looks great. the inside is also looking good. i talked to some of the guys from the band and they all like the destruction but not the character swinging. the main issue is that it's too cartoon or anime like.
 
let me preface that comment a little: protomen get lots of love from the anime kids. the anime and gamer crowds tend to overlap a bit and protomen embrace that by playing conventions and stuff like that from time to time, but they worry about blurring the lines between the gaming realm and the rock band thing too much. the band kind of arose out of an idea to tell the megaman/protoman story in a western style a la 'the good the bad and the ugly.'
 
that being said, this project detours that school of thought a lot since it's an 8 bit interpretation of their record, so it's obviously going to be more about gaming and the whole 80s nintendo nostalgia 8-bit deal. if worst comes to worst, we can just have the inside cover without the guy swinging away or maybe in another pose or further away in the shot. i don't know. what are your thoughts on it? i'm going to talk with them more on this. looking at the image more and more, it comes across more like title screen art, which, in that light, it works for me. mostly the head needs fixing. i'll hook you up with images tonight.
 
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2007 at 9:57pm

Don't work with 16 year olds?

Well just manually reduce the colors and replace them with their appropriate 8 bit counterparts.
Video game title art as a whole, is not as detailed as scene art.
Perhaps it has too much depth and resembles a painting more than a picture made of reusable elements. Jal I love your work it's top quality, but as a videogame piece it's unconvincing. The old artists had to make reusable tiles and sprites due to their resource space. If you want the videogame look, think reusable sprites thrown on reusable tiles.
 
Hey buddy, this is a very very well done picture it's a shame that it didn't work for what they wanted. Throw both in the gallery instant favs I suppose.


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