Trying something altogether different with the exocet/lawrence c+c
Ship is completely redrawn.

How did I miss this update? This looks very good. I agree though, the ripples look too orderly and unbroken. For transparent water, you should make the vertical "walls" of the pool visible under the water. On my edit I used a dark blue (on the left corner) for that. Also, the building's reflection in the water is too straight and uniform. In my edit the lightest shade of blue is specular reflection of the sky, that's why it stops abruptly under the pier and more ambiguously near where the specular reflection of the ship's elaborate structure would be. All the other shades of blue are just shadows (cast on the bottom surface of the "pool"), the lighter of which are made by the ripples themselves and the darker one being the ship's shadow.

Also, I think the sails probably look too bright, I sort of preferred their old colours.


Edited by Lawrence - 17 November 2007 at 2:45pm

Loving the pallet, jalonso!  mhmmm!

Looks as though your style has changed a bit.  But thats probably since its not complete?

i should make a friendly fire edit on ya
ill fire some cannonballs towards your selfesteem,
and make your confidence walk the plank
;)
haha, except not really.. i couldnt do that to you.
but at the same time.
maby ill still make an edit. ill see


Edited by flaber - 18 November 2007 at 12:56am

Go for it flaber ;)
How about now Mash?

thanks :)

I completely understand. Those kind of details I generally leave for the end as I change and move stuff around a lot. This project especially so

ps: those palms are plucked from another iso of mine and may not even stay.

Finally I see some flaws there 

Well only one.. Aren't the pirates a bit too big for the piece? Or are the houses too small for the pirates?

Either way, something isn't really right there

That looks amazing, I wish I could do this *sad face*..in time..in time..

im working on a bit of textures
and shape / form for ya
just so you know..

im super busy though with that school type thing.
here and there i work on an edit. like 10mins at a time.
haha

Hmmm, not sure if I like the green in the water. Also the ship should be partly under the water. It makes it look like marble, hard and flat.

I'm sorry, you've posted this in the wrong section. You're looking for the MIP (Masterpiece in Progress) section.  All your water has been great, but I like the use of the green to get a "sand in shallow water" look to it.

Um...how does this apply to the pic in question?  I for one don't see this as being in the appropriate forum.  

been super busy with homework and other such
did this in a few 5-10min intervals here and there.
little edit to suggest some possible textures:



(you and your fancy transparency...)



I kept for the most part, your areas of shading. I just textured.
Those are a few ideas / suggestions that you could think about for giving your boat alittle bit more.
I found it to look alittle like plastic. Almost like those lego pirate ships, with the hard shiny plastic.
Hopefully thats a valid edit. if not then discard it.


Edited by flaber - 23 November 2007 at 7:20am

not sure i got the body right for you though. that was the part i was alittle iffy on. Tried to add in the separation between the pieces of wood aswell as some nails. Since the outside of the boat is in water, it would be pretty saturated and worn, thus giving it the rough grain.

glad you liked the sails though. You had the sails shaded well, but it just seemed alittle too much like a solid object. With the definate shadows and highlights, blocked in. Where as sails are cloth material and are always changing, so i figured to try and give a lighter texture with softer highlights and shadows throughout. (dynamic dithering)
The part just left of the skull and cross bones, and below (in the shadows) i did together quickly. But im sure you still get the right idea for it.

The red railing on the side of the boat.. i barely even knew it was there until I sat down and started texturing. Id suggest trying to make that more prominent. You have alot of details and things going on, which is fantastic. But some of the things get lost in the confusion. So you need to then have things adjusted for slightly foreground and slightly background. Where the things in front have more highlights, and are outlined better. and the things behind have slightly less detail.
Right now I found things to all be at the same colour intensities and detail intensities, causing things to get lost in the confusion and mess.
Another example of this would be the nets and the ladder.
So then, my biggest crit would be to bring out the red railing more. I did alittle bit, but i think it could still be brought out more.

Hopefully though, that was a helpful edit, and that maby you can use something out of it.

depending on how things go, maby ill make another edit for ya ;)
maby ill step into your water. hehe

(oh, what i meant by transparency, was that i have the nice white background...)


Edited by flaber - 23 November 2007 at 2:04pm

Keep up the good work jallo! :D

that's just lovely.. add a Treasure box under water, will you? ;)

... like Le Chuck! O.o

straight across from the seals is... rocks im guessing? by the store?
you have them shaded identically to the way you shaded the seals.. just in different colours.
which thus makes me see them as awhole lot of dead seals piled up by the store, instead of rocks. give the rocks sharper edges, and deeper contrast between highlight and shadow.

Yes much better I would say. The people to me look a few pixels to large to actually use the boat.  Isometric is orthographic right? Nice and busy with life. this piece it becoming great.

:)
closer.
much closer. They are good rocks.
but now they are like stalagmite, rocks.
hehe.
but :( since they are so black now, they become a focal point...
much better though than last time

Is this a good thing? Should I go greyer? Is pointy rocks bad for this, or should I be square-ish?

Jal, with all these re-workings and re-doings, I think you must be the most patient person I have ever encountered 

I think the rocks are an improvement as well, although I agree they look perhaps a little too cave-like.  When I think of rocks near the sea, I think of something flatter with more edges, like these.
If you prefer keeping the ones you have (which still look really good, btw), I think making them a little lighter would be nice


Edited by MashPotato - 24 November 2007 at 6:52pm