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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 21 June 2011 at 11:59am

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Quote JaumeAlcazo Replybullet Posted: 22 June 2011 at 7:20am
It's shaping out greatly, but the only think I strongly dislike are the flags and the svastika. It's an extremely controversial subject and offensive to many persons, I don't recommend to showing this in any part of your art, or at least, not in so prominent way. This can easily go off your hands if noticed by the enough amount of people and they decide to add sensationalism to it. Just my view, don't take it bad ; )

Off: First exam was good! Tomorrow next one!


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 16 August 2011 at 11:31am
Yeah! I was concerned about too much Nazi iconography but it is a Fascist Spain war game so I need to figure something to convey that.

Another stab at this slow going WIP


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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 16 August 2011 at 11:57am
I wouldn't worry about the  nazi stuff. I mean, it's almost 20 years since Wolfenstein 3D came out. I think the world is ready.

I'd completely forgotten about this stuff. Looking forward to seeing it finished.
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Quote ellie-is Replybullet Posted: 16 August 2011 at 1:05pm
f**king awesome!

And yeah, keep the swastika, it adds a nice touch. You're killing nazis, you're not promoting the hating of jews. :P

Also, love how you can make even Picasso's boring art look so awesome! =P

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Quote Lathien Replybullet Posted: 16 August 2011 at 3:03pm
God, I love all of your artist mockups, I was blown away by Medici but now the amount of detail in this and the way you captured his style in a completely different medium...just wow.
One thing I might say though, the smoke on the gun in the "Facist Pig!" frame looks too solid to be smoke despite the style and comes off a little strange. Other than that, love the atmosphere on the mission failed screen, love how the chicken is an item and that even the hearts are cubist.

Can't wait to see the finished product.


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Quote divtag Replybullet Posted: 16 August 2011 at 3:09pm
interesting.... and it looks great too, good stuff.
the "this should help"-screen is my fav as a single image.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 8:53am
When I switched over from a SHMUP to a FPS, Wolfenstein3D was an inspiration and ref. To honor that I added '3D' to the title and then overlaid it on the swastika design to minimize it...may redo all of that later :/

The smoke on the gun was actually ref'd from Picasso paintings as that how he painted smoke even tho I too felt it looked solid so I softened it a bit. Also added some canvasy texture thruout. Works in places and fails in other places.

I like the Musician screen best too. Thx, Skamocore  :)




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Quote neofotistou Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 10:08am
the musician screen is amazing. The gun smoke is awesome. The Gun explosion on screen#9 feels a little squashed vertically and kiiinda weird. Finally, the guernica logo seems a little bit too transparent overlaid over the swastika, so it maybe looks a bit too busy?

And that's it, I have no other crits
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 10:49am
Originally posted by neofotistou

...the guernica logo seems a little bit too transparent overlaid over the swastika, so it maybe looks a bit too busy?


I don't follow that? You mean it should be lighter or darker?
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Quote neofotistou Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 11:37am
I mean the letters are too transparent, the swastika shows through a little bit too much for my taste, maybe making the title hard to read. Don't hold me up to it, though.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 12:43pm
Better Title Screen?
+ New poison screen.

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Quote dpixel Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 1:18pm
Personally I like the old title screen better.
hehe (ಠ_ಠ ) o_- :p
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Quote neofotistou Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 1:20pm
The poison screen is fantastic. The title screen... I liked the old color on the font. Just less of the swastika showing through. 
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Quote dpixel Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 1:33pm
I think if the swastika gets any lighter, it wouldn't be worth putting in.  It's a touchy subject to some even now, which is understandable.
Yeah, I like the poison screen as well.  You still have a way with color that I will never know.
hehe (ಠ_ಠ ) o_- :p
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Quote divtag Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 2:03pm
i think especially the titlescreen and also maby the map are too far away in style.
i really enjoy everything else though.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 2:03pm
I'll leave the title screen for later on. Its not happening in my mind yet.
For now I'm going to work on overlapping screens, blending, fading and treating all screens as one to better achieve the painterly look. This may not work as pixels.
I hope it helps it instead of killing it.
I moved the screens around looking for where they almost already match.
Some first draft basic overlapping shown here.

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Quote ellie-is Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 3:08pm
Jal, how do you feel about having sex with men? Because I totally want to make some babies with you now.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 3:19pm
Only if our baby is born in 3 weeks, becomes the best ever Soccer player and supports us in lavish style so we may pixel every day 

*...and does not play Samba music*
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Quote Friend Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2011 at 4:28pm
I swear to god Lucas I was about to write the same thing to Jalonso. 
Jalonso, you're crazy, k

Lucas he's mine.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 10:42am
All screens touched up now. 85 colors which is more than I hoped for but I'm getting over this mockup so I won't even bother cleaning colors at all...unless someone points out any hue issues or clashing tones. Picasso just used too many color variations to really streamline the palette. I think the next mockup will be far easier and maybe like 16 colors will work (VanGogh-Point+Click).

Got a new idea for the title screen. Posting that next

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Quote cele1989 Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 12:23pm
This project is so great, so creative, original and nice to look at :)

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Quote neofotistou Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 12:30pm
I got no crits. The musician screen is still amazing.
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Quote Qemist Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 12:45pm
Originally posted by jalonso

1930s Spain during the War.




Im stunned by this for some reason it looks really good

and I love the stuff you got on this page too but what was this above here? concept art? :)


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Quote Mr Special Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 2:35pm
How is it possible for this idea to be conceived???? Who would have ever thought to combine Picasso, pixel art, and a DOS style first person shooter? This just goes to show the brilliance of Jal. I feel like every time I look at the screens, I can find something new. You have really done a stellar job!
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 2:53pm
Originally posted by Qemist

Originally posted by jalonso

1930s Spain during the War.

...what was this above here? concept art? :)


Originally this mockup started out as an outer space classic type SHMUP. That never worked out as the inspiration is the Guernica painting that takes place during Spain's Civil War and the whole Franco Fascist takeover.
That screen was a later version that was going to be a top-down 1930's time period inspired by games like Tyrian. That piece shows a section of the Guernica painting as buildings and that whole idea failed because no matter what I tried the buildings still looked like people and animals so I scrapped that whole thing and moved to the current FPS/stack version.
I thought that was the best looking and had it worked out this would have been finished a long time ago.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 7:17pm
While looking around for a good ref for the Title Screen I got distracted and made a ref mockup of the mockup.

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Quote ellie-is Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 7:22pm
Hey, what happened to Jaltendo?
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Quote jeremy Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 7:31pm
Looks incredible :D

except this

looks like a dick. The first-person view of it is much more bevelled at the top and bottom.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2011 at 7:34pm
@lucas, Jaltendo was threatened to be sued 
@Jeremy, will edit!

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 27 August 2011 at 6:22am
Edited inventory screen and just couldn't ditch the Spanish Flag in the Title screen.

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Quote ellie-is Replybullet Posted: 27 August 2011 at 9:57am
Title screen alone would make me want to buy this game.
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Quote Qemist Replybullet Posted: 27 August 2011 at 4:23pm
you = my hero! :)
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 28 August 2011 at 12:05pm
I really thought I was going to be easy on myself and ignore color conservation this time...

...I ...just...can't!

Up to now the palette has been 86 colors. I have now brought that down to 58. Naturally I have to retouch and tweak a bunch of areas to make all colors work throughout.
This palette is terrible and quite crazy when seen on its own and adjusting (maybe its just a Picasso related thing?).
Below is the palette in case anyone wants it for their palette collection. Feel free to use and abuse (just know it may only work for this piece and will need lots of adjustments. Especially in the neutrals). Also included is a slightly more refined and cohesive 33 color version. Also, free to use.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 7:07pm
Well that only took 2+ years.
It's in the gallery now, see it HERE
Thanks everyone.
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