:p

These are all the pixels that are affected if I change the colors of the sails at this stage.
And 3 of them are from the template base which mean they can't be changed.
I'd hate to add colors now.



Edited by jalonso - 02 December 2007 at 7:32pm

Ok can someone write a small application that will fav this piece for me even when I'm not sitting behind my computer?

For extra points: also make the app place a comment saying "first" there

That would make me happy...

P.S. Where's the voodoo priest?????

I personally don't like dithering in this piece. It looks nicer smoothed out like this. Give yourself a break Jalonso. You deserve one.

recoloring the ship 9.9

I like the new sails but I think you've cursed yourself trough this piece :P

This now has 2 less colors and some palette revisions have been made.
I have also desaturated the shadow side of the buildings as suggested earlier.
Cleaned the sidewalk a little so the Captain and parrot show up. Sadly, the monkey is still kicking college guy butts but will be back soon.
Remade all the ropes and moved some things around too.
Boat wood planks and sail details for later.

nice. starting to come along.
i can almost call this 'pixelart' now ;)

mind if i make a suggestion?
what a question.. i know you mind :D it just irks you.
thus why i do it.

since your main change / focus was colour change. im going to comment on colour change alone.
the sails are much improved with their smoothness between each colour. Thats very nice change. But, now you have them nearly blue? You seem to keep chaning your mind about what colour you want your sails to be. Blue or brown.

Hows about, for the sake of the crit, lets say we want tan sails. why? because as leel said, they are super distracting and a main focal point now that they are blue. If you make them a tan then it becomes more uniform and whole with the entire picture. But then, we want a tan, without it being such a solid tan colour that it too looks off and funny.
So hows about we actually think about the material we are colouring. this is a white/tan piece of cloth. Which means it will reflect most colours, and is probably dirty. Therefore, it does not mean that only browns and tans and whites will be reflected to develop that colour in our eyes.
It will reflect most colours, but in different ratios, as to still give the appearance of brown:






There are reds, tans, browns, greens, blues, greys, and pinks all mixed into there. Yet for the most part it still maintains a tan-ish colour. As you blend and mix you can refine this further by defining your ratios that much stronger.
 
your sails now, focus heavily on blues, soley for the shadows, and the light neutrals for the highlights. Mix it up abit.
this is now almost stepping into what i call 'double pallete blending'
its an interesting concept, and could be applied to the whole piece, if so chosen.

The buildings are a nice update too. the darker shadows on the one side are good.
my only crit for them, is to make sure there is a prominant difference between straight on, top, and side light source. The front and side are good. But its the top that varies in inconsistancy. Sometimes you have it really light, sometimes you have it darker.
try to make sure you have 3 separate planes, recieving different amount of light. you have it pretty well on par. Just hear and there, on a few places could be fixed up, to give it that even further dramatic effect.

oh.. i always forget to mention.
the water.
it should be shallow (like it is) close to the buildings. But then your going to need a huge shelf / drop off. In order for the boat to be there. Those cant sail into very shallow waters, or well, dont normally. So perhaps deepen around the boat?

hope some of these new comments may be useful.

[EDIT / NOTE]
I dont feel like looking back and trying to see where this could fit in...
but...
the colours i changed in the sale, to illustrate that example were chosen from your colours already. I did not change or create anything myself. I only replaced with colours that were already existant somewhere else in the picture


Edited by flaber - 09 December 2007 at 12:56am

Wow you are right! I tried, and I cant study the buildings anymore now with these sails! even when I zoom in it remains hard!
thats why I like flabers version much more..

I love the new colors!

oh wow.
why such a radical change now in colours?
or are you trying to drop colour count?
hmmm..
im going to wait for you to re-colour those rough areas, so I can get a better idea of what your going for.
it does seem very dark, and alittle washed out. Its not bad, just much different than what you were working with before (warmer colours). So, lets see how you can get this going.

im no meanie >_<
im just the pain in your side that wont go away

For the tops of buildings then, since they are same colours... mix/blend in darker colours with it. since what you have for the tops, is the darker colour/texture of the fronts its hard to differentiate. Then your side is much much darker. So if you took the lightest tone from that, and mixed it with the darkest tone from the front, and scattered/blended/dithered in some mannerism, as to give an obvious different plane.

I never said anything about the lighting on the sails. It was the colours. The actual shading and such, is fine. True, it would pick up the colour from the ocean, as blue. But, its surrounded by plenty of other colours too. The actual ship itself would have a huge influence on light bouncing onto it. As would the buildings. So thats then where cold and warm colours come in. The shadows, would be influenced by the huge ocean giving them a slight blue tint (hence slight, meaning not every shadow shade needs to be blue). The highlights/warmer colours would be influenced by light coming from the ship and building. Giving more random crazier colours sort of like my edit, where it looks 'polluted'. Its recieving light from everywhere, and since its a light coloured fabric it would reflect most.
Thats where perhaps looking further into double pallete blending might become of use.
With how youv started, the side of your ship would be a good candidate for it aswell.
if you really want.. you could probably google some pirate ships just to see somehting similar as to what i was telling you.

'your precision of pixel placement, the love you put into each and every pixel' is really starting to surprise me jal :). hahaha

Sounds like a challenge to me. Redo this piece with just 2 colors.

Huge improvement! However I think that the ship is too dark, and the green area's on the ship are really terrible.. you need to remove/replace those!

The rest of the colors are less warm, not my favourite but surely alot better!

I do hope you're not keeping those rocks the way they are... they look a lot like metal.

Actually it doesn't look like metal to me, but rather like coal. O_o

Totally digging the new color theme of blue/yellow! One thing that's bugging(lol) me is how clean the roof near the rocks looks. I think you could add some dark under the highlights to make the form of each tile more obvious, and even put some grime coming from the building. Also think behind the building should be darker.

How do I post my pixel art?

Think you did an amazing job, only because you used so much colours on the sails they look pillow-shaded... mayb less contrast

Actually the light source looks like it is coming from the top right,look at the building.

*looks side to side*



Ship still in progress.
New buildings, moved around loads of stuff.
New colors.


Edited by jalonso - 15 December 2007 at 9:47pm

@greenraven: actually loopy ash posted here already submitted it to the gallery then PMed me and and asked and I told him so he didnt already know and hes not a spammer also this is the first forum hes ever been on I know because hes a friend of mine from school

Simply do this"
Take a linen bedsheet and put it in your window and stand on the opposite end of the room. How much texture do you see then? I think you would see even less at a great distance to the point where a pixel is too big :P

Another attempt