Two extinct animals, the Leptictidium and the Andrewsarchus, who lived in the Eocene Epoch.

I've compared their heights at the top, one block being one foot, and hope that I correctly portrayed that. I would like to get help on perspective and anatomy mostly (colors too, but not yet).

The dark green will be ferns, the light green will be bushes and the yellow-green will be grass (with some other plants thrown in). I hope to add some trees, but the one I drew first would be on top of the andrewsarchus (who is now on top of it), so I'll have to find a new place for it.

somewhere around that, does andrewsarchus look wrong?
here's a newer version, not necessarily fixed, I think the butt looked the most off, the head prolly needs some tweaking.



I started with a skeleton like thing, but I guess it was too sideview


any perspective tips?

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Edited by skeddles - 25 January 2012 at 1:01pm

it's a predator, so think about the story of the picture. The position of the animals isn't rather good for the "hunt" scenario.  You should also think a bit about how you create the environment to tell the story.

Just a quickie to give you something you can think of




Edited by Cyangmou - 29 January 2012 at 4:25pm

Guh, that's awesome, I never would have even been able to get to that stage though.  I'm really just trying to work on a certain style, which is usually an overhead gamelike style.
Honestly, the hardest part for me is the drawing, if I just took what you've done I could turn it into a pretty nice piece, but just drawing things in perspective (or even getting the idea to) just doesn't come easily to me.

Plus I have a hard time with anatomy, so drawing a pose like this is hard, nevermind something crazy and cool.


Also, I wasn't really intending a hunt, more like the big ones just walkin' through, and everything else getting the f out his way.




Damnit, I read the length as the height, you're right, they're even smaller than I thought. And as far as them meeting, it's not like I'm really going for realism, I just made sure they were same era, and they're also two of my favorites. Don't worry, I'm sure I'll do a terror bird some day, I'm obsessed with this stuff. (Walking with beasts is awesome)

I dunno, should I really start over? I wanted and rpg view like scene including extinct animals, but was that where I went wrong?

Okay, I'm gonna do a more dynamic fight scene, terror bird(8ft) rider with an andrewsarchus(6ft) vs an enteleont (probably not much of a fight, but I don't like em). yeah I'm just throwing realism out the window. I think I want to do a side view for now

I cant wait to see your piece though jeremy, glad I'm not the only one who  sees their awesomeness =]


roughly 1 block = 1 foot?


and I want to work on my style, but create something more interesting than ponds. I'm sick of not knowing what style I like, and I always admire people whose galleries are consistent, so I'm going to start doing that, and I've chose a style.

edit: Andrewsarchus may be too big, he might get hit with an arrow. might just leave him out and make it terrorbird vs hell pig

though h wouldn't stand a chance with just arrows... pet smilodon maybe?


Edited by skeddles - 29 January 2012 at 10:59pm

tried the tree again, think it worked out better this time, even though it looks less detailed, I also tried leaves but failed, I might have to just do them in shadow

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worked on palette/composition




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worked on the bird a bit, now the hunters arm positions look really bad too, I always have trouble with action looking poses for people




Edited by skeddles - 01 February 2012 at 7:31am

Why are you restricting yourself to rather strict perspectives for this piece, rather than a point-of-view like Cyangmou suggested? If it's because you're afraid you can't do it - if you don't try you never will.

Consider thickening+shortening the terrorbird's legs, also makes the opponent feel more dangerous (sizewise). 

Edited by Jeremy - 01 February 2012 at 8:51pm

No you're not.  You'll do just fine.

not sure If I should do him furry, or muscely, or somewhere in between. also not sure if I'll need more colors, I only have 4 for such a big sprite.
does anything look wonky/bad?

I disagree, I think the anatomy is quite good, just the pose could be more dynamic. Maybe like this:

this look more actiony?

found some boar runnin pix

Yeah, boar/hyena is just what I was thinking, maybe a little buffalo too.



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threw the bird in for fun, remember that there will be rocks and bushes and it wont just be solid darkness


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last one for today



Edited by skeddles - 03 February 2012 at 8:02pm

I think it would great if the head of the bird was a little down with the beak open like his was screaming.
like this:

Good pixelwork...but...the bow seems rather small and somewhat lame and the bird legs are not elegant and don't seem to be in the right proportion somehow. Maybe the belly is too thin too...something about where the body meets the legs and the legs is just off.
In birds like emus and ostriches that depend on land speed instead of flight the thighs need to generate power while the talons need to be light on the ground.

Think more T-Rex legs. Very muscle-y thighs and spindly legs with the proper size/proportion thigh to belly attachment.

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EDIT 2: brighter colors better or worse?



Edited by skeddles - 28 February 2012 at 4:01pm

Hi, I'm not sure if it's to late but I would like to give some advice on posing the bore.  Try staggering the limbs a bit more and it will give more dynamic movement of the charging bore. 

This image has the bore with one front arm streched out while the other is following up.  The back hind leg is more curled and about to come forth while the hind leg in front is about to leave the ground it's stretched a bit further.


This pose has the front arm in the back streched a bit further than the other to show it's reaching more fiercely while the other arm stays slightly bent. 


hope that is helpful.

adding more foliage to the first background layer

don't worry, I'm not done with bushes

but you're right about the characters, will work on that.

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Edited by skeddles - 12 March 2012 at 2:39pm

yeah, I pretty much agree with you, but I have no clue how to go about lighting the characters correctly.

I will work on the birds leg though

Still working on the background, as you can see I went crazy with vines.

Still gotta do the ground. And a couple foreground pieces. Then I can work on the characters.

I've been studying your picture for a few minutes now and I think the biggest problem I'm having with it is the dark outline around the boar. I think the dark outline is what's separating it from the scene and making it stand out. try giving it some brown outlines instead that blend in with the boar and see if that helps.

also, I just shoved a brownish black with some transparency and multiply layer ontop of the boar. I think the colours could be a tiny few shades darker, In theory my mind says yes, but in practice it doesn't make all that much difference.

so the outlines must be what my subconscious is yelling at me for.

as for your tree, I don't know if I like the new one. It seems more tree texture-y but it's not as defined as your other trees texture.

perhaps it needs a little refining instead of leaving it 'brush-stroke- y' ? (that's a real professional term right there! =P)

Good luck

texture on tree? how does it look?

trying other colors on the pig, and took out the outline, don't think it totally worked

more colors


edit: bird colors


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style?
bird with outline

or


bird without


edit: slight outline?



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reworking the boar, I might want to go with a more muscular and less hairy version, but I don't think my anatomy skills are good enough for it to look good...



Edited by skeddles - 15 March 2012 at 8:05pm