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Quote Souly Replybullet Topic: Burnt Toast
    Posted: 24 January 2006 at 10:42am

I made an evil piece of toast last night, It's a work in process.



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Quote Psychotic_Carp Replybullet Posted: 25 January 2006 at 5:45am
The body looks good, the tip of the fork doesnt look right though
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Quote randomblink Replybullet Posted: 25 January 2006 at 6:36am
I like the evil toast... nicely done    
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:10pm
I like the toast but think they would go for a knife not a fork. 
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Quote Toopsie147 Replybullet Posted: 26 January 2006 at 4:32am

Yeah really nice!

the tip of the fork really needs improvement and how about it showing the fork to an innocent sauce bottle or a slice of bread would do just as good. (I THINK)

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 26 January 2006 at 9:21am

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Quote Wayuki Replybullet Posted: 26 January 2006 at 10:52am
I like it much better with a fork... because it's kinda like a trident and that seems far more devilish to me.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 26 January 2006 at 1:39pm
My apologies, the fork is far better (knife looks stoopid, I just thought knives are assciated with toast more than forks). It's this new commander thing, its gone to my head 
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Quote MurrMan Replybullet Posted: 27 January 2006 at 9:47am

But how would the Toast get a Fork? I never use one when i eat my toast. And it is less that Knee-High so it wouldn't get to the utencils drawer.  ouuOUU... or maybe he crafted it out of the the half eated piece of a fallen commrade... ouuuu that would be wild.

yeah well to the relevent comments... If you are going to use the fork i suggest makeing it more fork like. i have not encountered forks with triangular prongs on my daily travels. yet... And i am wondering what his other hand is doing. and where are the spreads that it was attacked with?

just some questions to concider (consider? conscider? oh I dont know)

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 28 January 2006 at 12:47pm
Butter dripping down him would be cool.
I'll give it a shot.

I'll try for the fork again.

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 28 January 2006 at 10:56pm

I didn't do the butter yet.
But I added a new hand, some color, and fixed the fork.

Oh, I also touched up the eyes so they look more natural and not just glued on.

I need someone to help me with the shading, I just can't understand the concept of it.
I tried following a few tutorials, but I failed.


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Quote Blick Replybullet Posted: 28 January 2006 at 11:24pm
Don't save in .jpg format.

No one can really help you with shading until you show your attempt at it. At which point it's easier to see your problem and to help you refine the piece. Just start shading and it'll be easier on your potential critics to identify your troubles.
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:01am
I didn't save it as a jpeg.
When I uploaded it to tinypic, I forgot to switch it to png.
I fixed that much.

Here, I'll try to shade it.


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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:16am
Here's my attempt at shading it.



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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:07am

Try upping contrast between normal shades and highlights so they show up more. It could use some AA too, but the shadow placement is good.


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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:15am

here i tried shading it (cause it's fun I hope you put it in the collab forum sometime cause I reaally want to finish it)


I tried dithering to give it some more texture ..cause it's toast,  you know?

yeah, I only did the yellow part in the middle, hope it helps you a little bit

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 8:56am
Looking good. Perhaps you could improve it by making the crust color stand out a bit. And color the fork silver using blues (not too blue) rather than greys.
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:41am
Ugh, I have to learn how to properly dither. :'[
I try tutorials, and they just go over my head.

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:20pm
I just use 50% dither. I'm too lazy to get the other tpyes to work well.

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:26pm
50%? D:

I so don't know what you mean.

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:32pm

like so:

50% Dither


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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:56pm
thats just a regualr dither type, there are many more, just be
creative

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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 2:26pm

http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/5745.htm

one great example of alternative dithering


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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 2:57pm
done with souly's permission. inspiration for teeth and pallete by
blick , the toast pallette was from morgannes toast :D

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 2:58pm
It's awesome, I applaud you Shark. :]

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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 3:01pm
its a great concept, this would be a great boss for the pixeljoint
game, perhaps a mini level
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 3:08pm
Gasp!
Little eggies hopping around, OMG I just got an idea!

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Quote Blick Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 3:16pm
Haha, Shark, I just spent the longest time doing the exact same thing.



I figured that he's evil toast, he might as well be dark. Then he's also probably crunchy and so on, so dithering gives a decent texture. Some main parts to take into consideration with highlights are the lips, cheeks, brow and, although he doesn't have one, the nose. They usually protrude far enough into the light to be caught by it heavily. The brow and upper lip stick out far in this case, so it's important to make then get a strong highlight. Then there's how shiny the object is. Notice the strong highlight in the eyes makes them a lot shinier than the dithered highlights along the brow. Shinier the object, the more contrast it has. Then there's other stuff I'm sure you can figure out from looking at it.


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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 3:29pm
damn you're good.
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 3:37pm
I agree, Blick is quite good.

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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 4:13pm
oh my.. maybe he's evil because he's burnt?  Poor toasty
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 4:21pm
I present to you, my first attempt at French Toast.
Burnt Toast's arch nemesis.



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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 4:33pm

hahaha oh man that's genious

can can can I try coloring it?

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 4:33pm
Of course.

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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 4:34pm
sweet! I'll get right on it
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Quote Blick Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:41pm
I almost want to make a strawberry jelly to compliment these characters.

damn you're good.

I actually thought your texturing (especially the rippled sort of effect on the crust sides) was a lot better looking. And I'm really not that impressive at pixel art. I don't even know what I'm doing half the time, I just eyeball everything I do. I see Ptoing and Helm talking about unifying palettes and using colors to aa not based on hue, but just on luminoscity and making it work and I have no idea how they even make what they do work. I'm just a kid with some [very] loose knowledge on lighting, color theory and character design.
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:49pm
And I'm an 18 year old who knows nothing, other then to draw bread.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:37pm
I have grown to love Burnt Toast and check on him everyday since he arrived. Today the best thing happened, I met French Toast.

Souly, Pass the toast.
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:53pm
Thank you jalonso. :]

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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:20am
@blick: i think you have one of the most perfected dithers i have
seen. I am inspired by your shark everytime i see him, perhaps we
could use him in the pixeljoint game as a boss?? I have tried the
techniques of helm also, eg try aa'ing sumthing in pink with a dark
green shadow, and i just get a load of crap. Any lineart will look
good with the right pallette, and is the skill i need to perfect most,
colour choicing.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:07am
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:18am
PURE GENIOUS.
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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:23am
<3



That is all.
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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:27pm
superb!!
i think a version should be made with blicks version/style too
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 1:16pm
I can't tell what the thing he's holding is
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 2:16pm
leel -  I can't tell what the thing he's holding is
Me neither, so I just colored it

shark - i think a version should be made with blicks version/style
I could'nt agree more. Souly should give a go too.
...maybe the PJ nerd toast

I love, love these toasty things. I wish they were my avy.


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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by leel

I can't tell what the thing he's holding is
A knife with butter on it?

The lineart makes it look like a baguette.

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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 2:40pm

well i thought it was a knife with butter on it in the colored version, but the lineart it's hard to tell... that'd be a small baguette for a slice of bread to hold

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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 3:16pm
Somehow that made me think of Cluedo.
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Quote CDI Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2006 at 3:25pm
breadstick?
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