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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 9:26am
Ooops, I'll try posting it again 
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Quote JJ_Maxx Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 9:40am
It kind of looks like an orange pancake. I think its because of the drop shadow behind the peice. I would add some darker shades to the edge of the fruit and add a different type of shadow.

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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:07am
great color choces, looks yummy. perhaps make it a little more
round and smoother.
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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:11am
  Is this any better?
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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:16am
      **Fixed Shadow a little**
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Quote Di0xygen Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:19am
the problem is that the shadow is going in the wrong direction.

The light is coming from us, and the shadow is coming toward us, wich is wrong. if you see what i mean, you should have the shadow going toward top right
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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:33am

[GIF] http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/774/grapefruitavatar1wgre enyyy1xb.gif[/GIF]           Im having alot of trouble figuring out what you mean. do you mean like this? what exact direction and placement of the shadow are you talking about?

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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:34am
**Ooops I forgot to preview my post before replying! Sorry!**  
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Quote Di0xygen Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 11:29am
yup jus like that. but a bit shorter (reffering to the line)


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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 12:21pm
Which line are you refering too? I'm confused.
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 12:31pm
The diagonal one that looks like the projected end of the shadow.

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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 12:40pm
    Like this?
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Quote alkaline Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 6:18pm
your grapefruit is quite circle shaped but the shading stops like an oval. Also, they aren't that flat. try moving the bump on the top higher up. Furthermore, you could probably have used less colors in it. Furtherfurther more, I'm not very familiar with shadows, but should it really dark yellow?
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Quote Blick Replybullet Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:01pm
your grapefruit is quite circle shaped but the shading stops like an oval.

Shadows cast by a circle on a flat surface by an angled lightsource are generally ovals. Unless I'm misunderstanding.

Anyway, what's that, 28 colors used in this? You have three basic things to need colors for. The shadow, the grapefruit and the transparency. This could be cut down to the single digits of a color count, especially if dithering is involved. If not dithering, it could still get to be around 8 to 12 colors. Please try to control your palette, it's a useful thing to know how to do sometimes.
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 7:10am

i think you should try to dither it, it'd give a nice texture on the fruit

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Quote JJ_Maxx Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 7:26am
I did a quick edit. I think, according to your light direction, we shouldn't see so much of the shadow and there shouldn't be any shadow directly underneath it.



You also need to work on the shape of the fruit itself, you have alot of jaggies to trim.

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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 10:20am

 

Blick: Thank you for the advice Blick, but I like using alot of colors. I'm not saying theres anything wrong with limiting your palette, It's just not my style.

leel: Thank you for the tip! I'll try dithering and see if it comes out right (But I warn you I'm not a very good ditherer!)

JJ_Maxx: Thank you JJ_Maxx, I was having so much trouble getting the shadow right! Ill be sure to trim the edges, I was planning on doing it after i got the shadow and general shading correct.

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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 11:04am

Is this any better? (I didn't dither it, sorry leel.) The biggest problem I'm having with it right now is that the top is too flat. Does anyone have any tips on how I can fix it?

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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 12:05pm
Id bring the right side in a bit, it seems to bulge out.
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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 12:32pm

i think if you were to use more of the darker colours, and less highlights, it'd help lots. allso, the dent for the green stuff wasn't there.

here's an edit (with dithers. i like dithers)


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Quote alkaline Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 1:39pm
this is what I mean by the weird shading.  The orange shading.
I didn't do the dither completely, but you get the jist of it. Gist? jist. whatever. I wasn't referring to the shadow. You see, on his, the shading just...abruptly stops. It isn't a full circly shape. It almost makes it look like a wedge was cut out of it.

The little bump should be worked on, it's just a circle. There should be darker shades too. It's too lightly shaded.

Aaaand....work on the shadow, I think it'd be cast differently. I didn't work on the shape of it myself, I just changed it because I didn't like the yellow.
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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 3:04pm
Alkaline your post confused me even more....
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Quote alkaline Replybullet Posted: 21 February 2006 at 3:38pm
Sorry...um....um....just look at the first image i posted and see what I messed around with. To a certain extent it should have shading more like that. I'm not very good at explaining things in an easy way...sorry..
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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:06pm
Thanks for the help!
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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:45pm

I Tried dithering and fixing the shadow. What do you think?

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:58pm
I like it a lot more now. Maybe add a BG color so the shadow AA looks better.

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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 1:02pm
Thats a good idea. What color would you suggest (I can't decide)?
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 1:14pm
RGB 174,174,88 looks good.

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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 1:20pm

Like this?

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 1:39pm
Yeah. That looks about right.

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Quote alkaline Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 2:23pm
the bottom right hand part of the grapefruit is too straight. It doesn't seem as round as everything else. I like the update, though.

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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2006 at 6:11pm

Does this look rounder?

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2006 at 8:41am
It looks odd shaped on the right side, almost as if there's a tumor.

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Quote JJ_Maxx Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2006 at 8:54am
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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2006 at 10:25am

It looks oddly shaped because most grapefruits arent perfect circles. They are more oval shaped. Examples:

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Quote moonymamma11 Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2006 at 10:28am

WOOT!!!! I got approved! Compare;

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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2006 at 10:32am
Word.

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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2006 at 1:43pm

Yeah i see your point about the shape, but the one i'm holding is definetely round >.<

The end product is good, but if you're putting it on that background i would have made the grapefruit more defined (darker borders) and perhaps AA'd it, but hey, that's just me. And i'm lame.

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