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moonymamma11
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![]() Topic: Grapefruit AvatarPosted: 20 February 2006 at 9:23am |
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C&C Please!   ; [IMG] http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grapefruitavatar1wg reen4fo.gif[IMG]
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 9:26am |
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Ooops, I'll try posting it again
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JJ_Maxx
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 9:40am |
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It kind of looks like an orange pancake. I think its because of the drop shadow behind the peice. I would add some darker shades to the edge of the fruit and add a different type of shadow.
Like this:
Keep going! EDIT, EDIT, EDIT! ~ JJ |
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Shark
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a.k.a. Feron Joined: 02 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2136 |
![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:07am |
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great color choces, looks yummy. perhaps make it a little more
round and smoother. |
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Snark, we love yuu.
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:11am |
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:16am |
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Di0xygen
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:19am |
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the problem is that the shadow is going in the wrong direction.
The light is coming from us, and the shadow is coming toward us, wich is wrong. if you see what i mean, you should have the shadow going toward top right |
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c==3
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:33am |
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[GIF] http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/774/grapefruitavatar1wgre enyyy1xb.gif[/GIF] Im having alot of trouble figuring out what you mean. do you mean like this? what exact direction and placement of the shadow are you talking about? |
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:34am |
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**Ooops I forgot to preview my post before replying! Sorry!**
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Di0xygen
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 11:29am |
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yup jus like that. but a bit shorter (reffering to the line)
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 12:21pm |
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Which line are you refering too? I'm confused.
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Monkey 'o Doom
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 12:31pm |
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The diagonal one that looks like the projected end of the shadow.
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 12:40pm |
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alkaline
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 6:18pm |
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your grapefruit is quite circle shaped but the shading stops like an
oval. Also, they aren't that flat. try moving the bump on the top
higher up. Furthermore, you could probably have used less colors in it.
Furtherfurther more, I'm not very familiar with shadows, but should it
really dark yellow?
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Blick
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![]() Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:01pm |
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your grapefruit is quite circle shaped but the shading stops like an
oval. Shadows cast by a circle on a flat surface by an angled lightsource are generally ovals. Unless I'm misunderstanding. Anyway, what's that, 28 colors used in this? You have three basic things to need colors for. The shadow, the grapefruit and the transparency. This could be cut down to the single digits of a color count, especially if dithering is involved. If not dithering, it could still get to be around 8 to 12 colors. Please try to control your palette, it's a useful thing to know how to do sometimes. |
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leel
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 7:10am |
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i think you should try to dither it, it'd give a nice texture on the fruit |
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JJ_Maxx
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 7:26am |
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I did a quick edit. I think, according to your light direction, we shouldn't see so much of the shadow and there shouldn't be any shadow directly underneath it.
You also need to work on the shape of the fruit itself, you have alot of jaggies to trim. ~ JJ |
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 10:20am |
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Blick: Thank you for the advice Blick, but I like using alot of colors. I'm not saying theres anything wrong with limiting your palette, It's just not my style. leel: Thank you for the tip! I'll try dithering and see if it comes out right (But I warn you I'm not a very good ditherer!) JJ_Maxx: Thank you JJ_Maxx, I was having so much trouble getting the shadow right! Ill be sure to trim the edges, I was planning on doing it after i got the shadow and general shading correct. |
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 11:04am |
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Is this any better? (I didn't dither it, sorry leel.) The biggest problem I'm having with it right now is that the top is too flat. Does anyone have any tips on how I can fix it?
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Larwick
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 12:05pm |
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Id bring the right side in a bit, it seems to bulge out.
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PixelSnader
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 12:32pm |
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i think if you were to use more of the darker colours, and less highlights, it'd help lots. allso, the dent for the green stuff wasn't there. here's an edit (with dithers. i like dithers)
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alkaline
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 1:39pm |
this is what I mean by the weird shading. I didn't do the dither completely, but you get the jist of it. Gist? jist. whatever. I wasn't referring to the shadow. You see, on his, the shading just...abruptly stops. It isn't a full circly shape. It almost makes it look like a wedge was cut out of it. The little bump should be worked on, it's just a circle. There should be darker shades too. It's too lightly shaded. Aaaand....work on the shadow, I think it'd be cast differently. I didn't work on the shape of it myself, I just changed it because I didn't like the yellow. |
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 3:04pm |
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Alkaline your post confused me even more....
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alkaline
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2006 at 3:38pm |
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Sorry...um....um....just look at the first image i posted and see what
I messed around with. To a certain extent it should have shading more
like that. I'm not very good at explaining things in an easy
way...sorry..
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:06pm |
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Thanks for the help!
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:45pm |
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I Tried dithering and fixing the shadow. What do you think?
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Monkey 'o Doom
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:58pm |
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I like it a lot more now. Maybe add a BG color so the shadow AA looks better.
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 1:02pm |
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Thats a good idea. What color would you suggest (I can't decide)?
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Monkey 'o Doom
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 1:14pm |
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RGB 174,174,88 looks good.
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 1:20pm |
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Like this?
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Monkey 'o Doom
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 1:39pm |
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Yeah. That looks about right.
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alkaline
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 2:23pm |
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the bottom right hand part of the grapefruit is too straight. It doesn't
seem as round as everything else. I like the update, though.
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2006 at 6:11pm |
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Does this look rounder?
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Souly
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![]() Posted: 23 February 2006 at 8:41am |
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It looks odd shaped on the right side, almost as if there's a tumor.
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JJ_Maxx
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![]() Posted: 23 February 2006 at 8:54am |
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 23 February 2006 at 10:25am |
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It looks oddly shaped because most grapefruits arent perfect circles. They are more oval shaped. Examples:
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moonymamma11
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![]() Posted: 23 February 2006 at 10:28am |
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WOOT!!!! I got approved! Compare; Original; Final;
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Souly
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![]() Posted: 23 February 2006 at 10:32am |
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Word.
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Larwick
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![]() Posted: 23 February 2006 at 1:43pm |
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Yeah i see your point about the shape, but the one i'm holding is definetely round >.< The end product is good, but if you're putting it on that background i would have made the grapefruit more defined (darker borders) and perhaps AA'd it, but hey, that's just me. And i'm lame. |
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