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Topic: Advice on kill elmo
Posted: 27 January 2007 at 9:31pm

teel me whats wrong and how to improve elmo

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Posted: 27 January 2007 at 10:05pm

um, improve what? it helps to show what you are talking about

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Posted: 28 January 2007 at 5:10am

Something about Elmo in his/her gallery.. but ... I just can't tell, since it requires revision.

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Posted: 28 January 2007 at 5:35am

this? oh man there's so many things you could do! actually, anything you do will probably make this a teensy bit better... anywho, some suggestions:

- dont use a white background, either make a scene or make it transparent.

- why a stick figure? the gallery is for your best finished and refined pieces, don't tell me that the best you can do is a stick figure.

- the red thing looks more like a robot than elmo to be honest, work from references and maybe do a bigger version (like 100x100) so you could fit enough details in without overwhelming yourself.

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Posted: 28 January 2007 at 10:55am

Not to be rude, but my advice is to spend more time practicing you drawing skills.

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Ensellitis
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Posted: 28 January 2007 at 11:12am

Originally posted by Lawrence

Not to be rude, but my advice is to spend more time practicing you drawing skills.

my thoughts exactly

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Posted: 28 January 2007 at 1:56pm

How about redo it and make the man actually look like a man and elmo actually look like elmo?

Start with making the man more than a stick figure and looking at an elmo picture to see a glimpse of what elmo looks like. For one, elmo's eyes are on the top of his head.

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Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:43pm

O.k. Aleiav i put the eyes on top, and slaped on some pants, but i did not like the eyes that way, but here you go anyway

http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/usercp.php?do=show_images&act=deleted&id=1Esellitis still really needs work...

Edited by seakingelebit - 31 January 2007 at 8:14pm

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Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:54pm

soory it took so long to get back to all u, i'm am the best exaple of a noob!

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Posted: 01 February 2007 at 7:25am

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Posted: 01 February 2007 at 12:26pm

http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/gallery.php?user=seakingelebit&id=1

Be careful with your links.

You could use to decrease the piece's saturation and the man needs a body and arms. The ground is very strange and I can't tell what it's representing. Overall you need more detail and better color choices as well as more realistic and interesting shapes and form. I think you could really use a basic grounding in anatomy and drawing as well as color theory and the like. Pixel art requires strength and techniques best developed in other media and that's exactly what you're lacking.

RPG is numberwang.

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Posted: 01 February 2007 at 5:14pm

http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/4439370338Kill_Elmo.PNG real man a paloza, and if you u got a problem with green shirts don't look at this art and the ground is a street now +i made elmo more Elmoish (if that is a word)

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Posted: 01 February 2007 at 8:33pm

Still doesn't look like elmo. The eyes are ON TOP of elmo's head. Literally.

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 8:39am

sirously very top? show how it would be done that way

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:11am

seriously. if you re going to do art, you need to learn how to use and find references. while you are at it, check out some pixel art tutorials and some basic art tutorials. you need to grasp the basic concepts of art before you can create art, and i don't believe you have yet to grasp them.

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:36am

Ok I wasn't going to say it, but the whole concept of killing a muppet is something a 10 year old would be amused with. I don't think annyone beyond the age of 10 thinks killing puppets makes one macho.

You don't have to like anyone's art and in my opinion killing a muppet is just lame.

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:45am

Maybe seakingelebit has a project of muppet mass-murdering... I say let him do whatever he pleases!

However, make a more detailled scene... Maybe bigger, with shadow effects (why not a small animation... It would look nice), a BG... I am sure you can improve it with a little time and effort. Just dont get discouraged.

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:57am

yeah ive been killin' muppets for as long as i can remember, the other day i made big bird take a knife to the cheat whahahahahahahhaahhahahhahah, oh and um my friend is 17 and he is still killing muppets

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 4:48pm

I can not figure out how to turn gales into gifs, and i made it animated

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:25pm

don't worry about animation yet, because if it sucks to begin with, the animation isn't going to make it any better.

you really need to get it down first.

You need to make the man look like a man, and elmo like

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:34pm

o.k. (but just so you know the animated version rocks) what doi need for the man a gut, what,I NEED SPECIFICS, im just not a big picture guy.

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:55pm

perhaps just some motivation and inspiration....

oh noes! Elmo lost his head and it landed on a tree branch!

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:59pm

well... we can't tell you exactly where to put each pixel, so here's a little visual to give you some ideas about the differences between a stick figure, and a human.

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:49pm

Elmo has sorta been updated, i think he is much more Elmoish, it made a real difference. http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5544288350Kill_Elmo.PNG

Edited by seakingelebit - 04 February 2007 at 8:03am

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:53pm

It's better, but you need to give it more interesting features and add in the elmoish details that make the character. Don't be afraid to break away from the perfectly side-on view; it's holding you back more than anything else at this point, aside from the lack of shading. I suggest turning him toward the viewer slightly and increasing the size to something like 2x that you have now. It may seem overwhelming but rendering a likeness at this size is hard even for pixel artists with a lot more experience than you have right now.

RPG is numberwang.

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:53pm

I guess if he has to be a real human, he has to be bigger. I guess i'll have to start from scratch.

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:18pm

what do you mean turn him twards the viewer?

Edited by seakingelebit - 02 February 2007 at 10:22pm

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:46pm

HAHAHAHA
this is priceless
when i saw you image i immediatly started laughing. im soo glad to see there are still people out there who are amused with killing muppets.
its genius. props to you.

keep at it.
and about your friend being 17 and still likeing it, its totally believable. im 17 and cant seem to get enough of this...
keep plugging away - dont worry about what the others have you say, your skills are good as is :)

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:51pm

wait guys, i'm Super super super super super super super super super, sorry i don't know if i can finish this, but i will pick back up on it another time.

it is just to much, mabey when i more experienced...

Edited by seakingelebit - 02 February 2007 at 10:52pm

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:59pm

you don't have to apologize for not being the best pixel artist in the world. No one is. And no one gets it quickly.

Why don't you try some tutorials first? That might give you an idea of where to start. There are plenty in the Resources and Support forums, and I can't pimp st0ven's tutorials here enough.

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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 12:59pm

the reson i said sorry is because you helped so much.

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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 4:10pm

No worries, save this thread to your favourites so you can go back to it and learn from any mistakes you may have made. Everything's a learning experience. Good luck in your next pieces.

(And geez you guys are harsh sometimes)

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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Topic: Advice on kill elmo Posted: 27 January 2007 at 9:31pm
	teel me whats wrong and how to improve elmo
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 27 January 2007 at 10:05pm
	um, improve what? it helps to show what you are talking about
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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 28 January 2007 at 5:10am
	Something about Elmo in his/her gallery.. but ... I just can't tell, since it requires revision.

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leel Commander Joined: 29 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3001	Posted: 28 January 2007 at 5:35am
	this? oh man there's so many things you could do! actually, anything you do will probably make this a teensy bit better... anywho, some suggestions: - dont use a white background, either make a scene or make it transparent. - why a stick figure? the gallery is for your best finished and refined pieces, don't tell me that the best you can do is a stick figure. - the red thing looks more like a robot than elmo to be honest, work from references and maybe do a bigger version (like 100x100) so you could fit enough details in without overwhelming yourself.
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Lawrence Commander Joined: 30 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 481	Posted: 28 January 2007 at 10:55am
	Not to be rude, but my advice is to spend more time practicing you drawing skills.
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 28 January 2007 at 11:12am
	*Originally posted by Lawrence* Not to be rude, but my advice is to spend more time practicing you drawing skills. my thoughts exactly
	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 28 January 2007 at 1:56pm
	How about redo it and make the man actually look like a man and elmo actually look like elmo? Start with making the man more than a stick figure and looking at an elmo picture to see a glimpse of what elmo looks like. For one, elmo's eyes are on the top of his head.
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:43pm
	O.k. Aleiav i put the eyes on top, and slaped on some pants, but i did not like the eyes that way, but here you go anyway http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/usercp.php?do=show_images&act=deleted&id=1Esellitis still really needs work... Edited by seakingelebit - 31 January 2007 at 8:14pm
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:54pm
	soory it took so long to get back to all u, i'm am the best exaple of a noob!
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Souly Commander Joined: 13 December 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2451	Posted: 01 February 2007 at 7:25am
	example*
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Monkey 'o Doom Commander Joined: 24 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2994	Posted: 01 February 2007 at 12:26pm
	http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/gallery.php?user=seakingelebit&id=1 Be careful with your links. You could use to decrease the piece's saturation and the man needs a body and arms. The ground is very strange and I can't tell what it's representing. Overall you need more detail and better color choices as well as more realistic and interesting shapes and form. I think you could really use a basic grounding in anatomy and drawing as well as color theory and the like. Pixel art requires strength and techniques best developed in other media and that's exactly what you're lacking.
	RPG is numberwang.
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 01 February 2007 at 5:14pm
	http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/4439370338Kill_Elmo.PNG real man a paloza, and if you u got a problem with green shirts don't look at this art and the ground is a street now +i made elmo more Elmoish (if that is a word)
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 01 February 2007 at 8:33pm
	Still doesn't look like elmo. The eyes are ON TOP of elmo's head. Literally.
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 8:39am
	sirously very top? show how it would be done that way
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:11am
	seriously. if you re going to do art, you need to learn how to use and find references. while you are at it, check out some pixel art tutorials and some basic art tutorials. you need to grasp the basic concepts of art before you can create art, and i don't believe you have yet to grasp them.
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Pixel_Outlaw Commander Joined: 01 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3829	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:36am
	Ok I wasn't going to say it, but the whole concept of killing a muppet is something a 10 year old would be amused with. I don't think annyone beyond the age of 10 thinks killing puppets makes one macho. You don't have to like anyone's art and in my opinion killing a muppet is just lame.

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MadMage Commander Joined: 02 September 2021 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 112	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:45am
	Maybe seakingelebit has a project of muppet mass-murdering... I say let him do whatever he pleases! However, make a more detailled scene... Maybe bigger, with shadow effects (why not a small animation... It would look nice), a BG... I am sure you can improve it with a little time and effort. Just dont get discouraged.
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:57am
	yeah ive been killin' muppets for as long as i can remember, the other day i made big bird take a knife to the cheat whahahahahahahhaahhahahhahah, oh and um my friend is 17 and he is still killing muppets
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 4:48pm
	I can not figure out how to turn gales into gifs, and i made it animated
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leel Commander Joined: 29 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3001	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:25pm
	don't worry about animation yet, because if it sucks to begin with, the animation isn't going to make it any better. you really need to get it down first. You need to make the man look like a man, and elmo like
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:34pm
	o.k. (but just so you know the animated version rocks) what doi need for the man a gut, what,I NEED SPECIFICS, im just not a big picture guy.
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pixelblink Commander Joined: 19 February 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2865	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:55pm
	perhaps just some motivation and inspiration.... oh noes! Elmo lost his head and it landed on a tree branch!
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leel Commander Joined: 29 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3001	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 6:59pm
	well... we can't tell you exactly where to put each pixel, so here's a little visual to give you some ideas about the differences between a stick figure, and a human.
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:49pm
	Elmo has sorta been updated, i think he is much more Elmoish, it made a real difference. http://imagehost.ensellitis.com/imagesv2/5544288350Kill_Elmo.PNG Edited by seakingelebit - 04 February 2007 at 8:03am
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Monkey 'o Doom Commander Joined: 24 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2994	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:53pm
	It's better, but you need to give it more interesting features and add in the elmoish details that make the character. Don't be afraid to break away from the perfectly side-on view; it's holding you back more than anything else at this point, aside from the lack of shading. I suggest turning him toward the viewer slightly and increasing the size to something like 2x that you have now. It may seem overwhelming but rendering a likeness at this size is hard even for pixel artists with a lot more experience than you have right now.
	RPG is numberwang.
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:53pm
	I guess if he has to be a real human, he has to be bigger. I guess i'll have to start from scratch.
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:18pm
	what do you mean turn him twards the viewer? Edited by seakingelebit - 02 February 2007 at 10:22pm
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flaber Commander Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 130	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:46pm
	HAHAHAHA this is priceless when i saw you image i immediatly started laughing. im soo glad to see there are still people out there who are amused with killing muppets. its genius. props to you. keep at it. and about your friend being 17 and still likeing it, its totally believable. im 17 and cant seem to get enough of this... keep plugging away - dont worry about what the others have you say, your skills are good as is :)
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:51pm
	wait guys, i'm Super super super super super super super super super, sorry i don't know if i can finish this, but i will pick back up on it another time.it is just to much, mabey when i more experienced... Edited by seakingelebit - 02 February 2007 at 10:52pm
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:59pm
	you don't have to apologize for not being the best pixel artist in the world. No one is. And no one gets it quickly. Why don't you try some tutorials first? That might give you an idea of where to start. There are plenty in the Resources and Support forums, and I can't pimp st0ven's tutorials here enough.
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seakingelebit Seaman Joined: 14 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 03 February 2007 at 12:59pm
	the reson i said sorry is because you helped so much.
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Larwick Commander Joined: 18 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4015	Posted: 03 February 2007 at 4:10pm
	No worries, save this thread to your favourites so you can go back to it and learn from any mistakes you may have made. Everything's a learning experience. Good luck in your next pieces. (And geez you guys are harsh sometimes)

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