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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Topic: [wip] - Why?
    Posted: 24 July 2005 at 7:45am
Ok so I got to thinking and the disolving floor wasn't working for me, so i tought about a trap door, so I started from there.

there's still a lot of work left to do but here's an update.





any C&C would be apreciated


Edit 2:
Added a filing cabinet + papers & a safe, a "door entry" and re-timed it a bit.

Edit 3:
Many more frames added, reshaped the legs of the walking dude, added a window(not sure about that). purple dude now flips the switch(kinda).




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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 24 July 2005 at 12:00pm
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 24 July 2005 at 1:51pm

it looks kinda weird since he's just standing there while the floor disappears... I understand you're going for the cartoony thing where someone walks off a cliff and continues walking until they realize where they are and fall, but still, there should be some kind of reaction on his part.  Maybe he could raise his arms as he falls?  

Also, do you have any ideas for the walls? Cause that would add so much to this, it could tell the story of where he is... and why the floor is falling lol.

Well, that's it for now, can't wait for an update

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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 24 July 2005 at 3:28pm
This is very far from being finished, I'm not that good with people, but I was thinking he looks at "us" and then says why, also while falling I'll have him raise his arms.

for the wall though I have no idea what to add, mabey some sort of switch that makes the floor disolve or what not!

it still needs lots of work.
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 24 July 2005 at 5:34pm

In my opinion, one of the most important things about an animation is its flow throughout. It looks odd when a person magically appears, or the floor just shows up again.

And, to make it more interesting, have a giant crevasse work its way across the floor. Also, have some increase in speed as he falls. Or, like someone suggested, make it the cartoony dust-poof.

Make the walls crack or something, they're too blank at the moment.

And, just curious, what program did you use to make this?

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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 24 July 2005 at 6:13pm
Photoshop for image and image ready for animation
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Quote kiwidesign Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2005 at 9:14am

very nice, imho

 

but you should fix the appear of the man....

why don't you make him enter from the door an than fall into the trap?

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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2005 at 9:29am
I'd love to see him come in the door, walk to the desk "yell" (with a speech bubble) obescenities (*&%$%!!!!) and then get dropped through the floor. Maybe the guy at the desk could reply (in a speech bubble, once he has fallen) "have a nice day" or something. And then it could loop.
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 1:12am
All in all, I think you need some more highlights, or a more contrasting pallate. It's a very groovy idea and I like the animation, but I'd also add some extra stuff into the room. It seems a tad bare.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 2:16am
I think he walks into the room a bit to fast, looks like he is running in...
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Quote zi-double Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 2:39am

Nice idea, but must open and close door when hi is enter.

Your animation will be with very much frames and I think file will be with very big size ..., but try to make some light parts in corners of hole, furniture, pictures and floor because now for me they are very dark ...

animation of open and close hole isn't good maybe need delay and accelerate in some frames as vision :)

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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 8:22am
thats true, it is all frames, and it will be pretty big, is there a file size limit for images in the joint?
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Quote sedgemonkey Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 8:27am

That's really great dude. 

No specific file size yet (the animation has to justify large file size).  You've got nothing to worry about... you're only at 9KB right now and the cool animation makes double that definitely worthwhile.

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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 9:58am
Does anyone have a sample of the floor used in the corridor of the joint?
can't seem to view the image of it.
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Quote sedgemonkey Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 10:42am
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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 10:43am
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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 3:34pm
i really like this idea, kind of like mr burns from the simpsons lol,
why not add smithers??
i think the walls are a bit empty, maybe add a filing cabinet and a
ming vase??
anyways cant wait to see the finished product
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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 10:54am
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Quote sedgemonkey Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 11:13am
The filing cabinet and safe help fill the room out.  Did you decide on what you were going to have for the words?
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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 11:27am
you're already seeing it, i wanted something visible but not legible, so.. barcodes!


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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 1:59pm
i think barcodes work well, it leaves more to the imagination!
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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 10:27pm
this made my day :-)
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 10:37pm
Schweet! One thing, though. The buildings out the window suggest that it's on the 163rd floor. I see that as a problem, but that may just be me.
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Quote zi-double Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 12:57am

Just some words:

... for 2-nd frame add one frame more for open door ... and for closing door too ...

... his left leg isn't good when he walk ...

... you use 16 px in left and 8 down for only one frame when he move in the room ... I suggest to make them 2or4 in left ... yes frames will be more but motion will be lightly

... for stand up and sit ... purple man need one frame more ... and when open hole his arm must have motion

... for open the hole need maybe 2 frames more ...

now you have 19 frames ... for good animation I think must be near to 60-80, but I sugget you to finish with all furniture and than make animation

... hm if you add shadows will be very good and interesting :)

for me tree is very cartoon and his plant pot is very big ... desk is very empty ... you can add more details on the floor ...

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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 1:05am
One thing that stuck out to me, the guy doesn't actually pull the switch...?
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Quote sedgemonkey Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 9:01am
I think you can do some sort of gibberish or symbols for the type, but barcodes is just confusing in my opinion.
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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 9:25am
you guys are killing me!!




keep it up!






back to work for me, lol

I'll try to get it done later on today.
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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 12:33pm
Zi has some awesome ideas for you to think about. I can't really add more to what he said. I think if you try and put the time to do some of those things, this will kick some serious ass
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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by zi-double

... you use 16 px in left and 8 down for only one frame when he move in the room ... I suggest to make them 2or4 in left ... yes frames will be more but motion will be lightly



Sorry If I missunderstand you but is this what you mean?


or are you saying to add more frames to the walk animation to make it more fluid.
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Quote TakeOut Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by Dutrho

Originally posted by zi-double

... you use 16 px in left and 8 down for only one frame when he move in the room ... I suggest to make them 2or4 in left ... yes frames will be more but motion will be lightly



Sorry If I missunderstand you but is this what you mean?


or are you saying to add more frames to the walk animation to make it more fluid.

I think he wants you to add more frames to make it more smoother/fluid w/e.
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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2005 at 8:49pm
I have to argue with sedgemonkey, I think the barcodes do well as "speech" because they ARE just gibberish to 99.9% of the population who can't read them (actually, can ANYONE "read" them?) and I think it's interesting and original.

however if you want it to be more blatantly speech maybe encorporate it elsehwere in the room, on a picture, papers on the desk, billboard outside the window somewhere else to show it's the "language" of the place.
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 30 July 2005 at 12:50am

The theory goes that you are what you eat. I can't exactly eat my computer, so if I did the robot dance long enough, would I become computerlike so I could read barcodes?

Theansweris42. Wait, what?

Alright, back on topic. I think the barcodes work well as a language, though strategic placement of punctuation would do well in terms of showing us why the guy deserved to get dropped down a pit. Like, maybe an exclamation mark, or elipses (...). Or you could do the internet's favorite thing and add a few random characters, like so: 8I

stoopid emoticons...

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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 July 2005 at 7:22am
Or maybe do actual faces with moving lips in the bubbles, like the guy walks is and says somthing, then show the guy at the desk getting pissed and thn bye bye...
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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 10:49pm
ok so I had to take a break from pixeling for a bit, RL stuff got in the way.

I pretty much suck when it come to drawing people, I havent adressed the speech bubbles yet, I still like the bar codes but I'll try symbols later.

where do I go from here?
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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 12 August 2005 at 7:40pm

the sitting guys upper legs disappear when he ''stands up''


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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 12 August 2005 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by snader

the sitting guys upper legs disappear when he ''stands up''

hmm.. they don't disappear, they shrink *nod* his torso eats up the thighs and attaches itself to the knees.  I didn't even notice it though, until you mentioned it.

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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 24 August 2005 at 9:33am
I decided to submit it as is, just cause i have other project I need to focus on and I have very little time on my hands.

if accepted great, if not thats ok.
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Quote sedgemonkey Replybullet Posted: 24 August 2005 at 10:27am
Don't worry about it Dutrho -- the image is good quality and you can always come back to it later if you want.  I put it in the fifth floor for ya.
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Quote Dutrho Replybullet Posted: 24 August 2005 at 9:42pm
thanks, i might get back to it at a later date.
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