RPG monster
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Topic: RPG monster
Posted By: skeddles
Subject: RPG monster
Date Posted: 03 November 2010 at 8:50pm
this one's most likely done: this one is alright:  this one sucks:  (ps: it still needs a tail)http://dev.linkpagecentral.com/work.php?id=104 - this is apparently what it's supposed to look like going to animate these as soon as I get them good enough any tips though? any thing that could be better on any of them? edits or crits or w/e appreciated. ------------- |
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Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 04 November 2010 at 4:44pm
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I don't see any issues, really (aside the missing tail).
You could try making the ears in the back view more of a ( shape, as in - reversing the curve of it. Possibly spread the legs of the front and back views to show a more stable/aggressive stance. ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 10 November 2010 at 5:01pm
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hey, thanks for replying, I changed the stance a bit, not really a need to show though Now I'm working on the running animation. 6 frames. Ignore his dancing butt cheeks.  ------------- |
Posted By: Hatch
Date Posted: 10 November 2010 at 5:59pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeErz1pI_mc - This may be helpful. More leg movement!
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Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 10 November 2010 at 7:20pm
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Originally posted by Hatch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeErz1pI_mc - This may be helpful. More leg movement! oh wow, you're right, it could have a lot more. one thing is though that this will be for following a person when they run and walk, so is there a way to keep it in between? I don't know if there are any examples of this... EDIT: Here's to more movement, better?  EDIT 2: back leg better'd  ------------- |
Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 11 November 2010 at 9:33pm
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This is a nice one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlOMJPcvrEE&feature=related
It's actually reduced to 4 frames:jump, fly, land, cross. These are excellent to base your animation on, and then possibly expand to 8 frames later. ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 12 November 2010 at 10:17am
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Originally posted by snader This is a nice one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlOMJPcvrEE&feature=related It's actually reduced to 4 frames:jump, fly, land, cross. These are excellent to base your animation on, and then possibly expand to 8 frames later. unfortunately I'm doing mine at 6, so I have the front legs forward and the back legs passing on frame 1, and the opposite on frame 3 and the 2 betweens. I think 8 frames would be overdoing it, I have to do this in 2 more directions, and then again and again for each monster. So I think 6 frames would be easier. unless you think using 8 because its a more dividable number would make animation easier. I'm working on the back legs now, they hard ------------- |
Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 12 November 2010 at 11:25am
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Depends on where your strenghts lie. Using six frames forces you to deviate from standard animation patterns, which requires you to be good at animating (which I assume is actually your weak point atm)
Using 8 frames allows you to just make inbetween frames for the 4 base frames, and this is easier because you can first tweak the 4-frame which is easier than tweaking a 6-frame. You could also try to use http://www.design-technology.info/photographers/cat.jpg - muybridge's cat photos as a reference, and grab 6 images off of that, but you'll probably have to tweak the animation as this cat probably moveas a bit too fast: 
Anyway, how about roughing out the positions of key elements first, like I did here:  ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 12 November 2010 at 4:44pm
 does this look super duper retarded?maybe I should just go with 8... ------------- |
Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 12 November 2010 at 6:01pm
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You're not moving the shoulders at all, and most of the other things move very little either.
For now, try having just the head, and the rest as lines. Just lines. That'll make it a lot easier for you I think. ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 13 November 2010 at 11:30am
 gonna try 8, did what you suggested, just did the 4 key frames something's obviously wrong with the blue leg... also kinda looks like he's hitting his on the ground tips plox ------------- |
Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 13 November 2010 at 11:55am
| He seems to be running sort of diagonally now. I'd rotate the shoulders a bit. |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 13 November 2010 at 12:31pm
 meh
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Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 11:33am
 I need help if anyone wants to give it still looks odd to me ------------- |
Posted By: vlad61
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 1:10pm
| those back legs need to push off more and I STRONGLY suggest 8 frames. otherwise you are doing only have the animation and then it jumps back to where it started from, with 8 frames it would have time to go back making it look more smoother. I mean maybe i suck but i havent seen 4 frames really cut it for anything except those tiny tiny zelda top down sprites. but once the leg is more than 2 pixels i think 8 frame are needed |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 2:07pm
 Smaller head, made his butt not go up so highI'm going to do 8 frames, just want to get the 4 main ones down first. Unless I fix anything else, then doing the other 4 is what's next.  did in betweens for the head sprite------------- |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 4:20pm
 Front leg wires in betweens / body wire in betweens ------------- |
Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 4:32pm
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So far, so good. ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 6:23pm
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Originally posted by snader So far, so good. Thank you.  here's what i got. Not sure if I should start the next step or notEDIT:  sh*t RUN slowwittle tail  ------------- |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 15 November 2010 at 1:27pm
 look at me I'm skeddles I keep bumping my topic because I think I'm importantwell heres outlines EDIT: faster  ------------- |
Posted By: Zeratanus
Date Posted: 15 November 2010 at 2:22pm
| its looking a lot better, but something strikes me as off about the back. I could be entirely wrong as animals are nowhere near my thing, but if i was to guess it would be that the upper back should move up along with the shoulders as the front legs come up. not sure though |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 15 November 2010 at 5:20pm
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Originally posted by Zeratanus its looking a lot better, but something strikes me as off about the back. I could be entirely wrong as animals are nowhere near my thing, but if i was to guess it would be that the upper back should move up along with the shoulders as the front legs come up. not sure though not really sure what you mean, when the front shoulders go up, the back goes up  a little shading------------- |
Posted By: Zeratanus
Date Posted: 15 November 2010 at 5:27pm
alright looking at some cat anatomy i think i found what was bugging me. Essentially, your creatures head is high up and looks like the back of the neck doesnt connect to the body the same as a cat's: But take it or leave it, since its obviously not realism :B |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 15 November 2010 at 5:35pm
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Originally posted by Zeratanus alright looking at some cat anatomy i think i found what was bugging me. Essentially, your creatures head is high up and looks like the back of the neck doesnt connect to the body the same as a cat's: But take it or leave it, since its obviously not realism :B  does this version look better to you? I lowered the head in areas where it looked too high------------- |
Posted By: Zeratanus
Date Posted: 15 November 2010 at 6:08pm
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yeah it does actually :) |
Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 15 November 2010 at 10:01pm
| REALLY like where this is going. See if you can make his ears move slightly, very slightly, otherwise just leave them the way they are now. Also, make sure to give him a walk, too. |
Posted By: krasimir
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 11:45pm
| It seems perfect to me now! I like how it says MONSTER in the title... |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 6:05pm
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Originally posted by krasimir It seems perfect to me now! I like how it says MONSTER in the title... because he's so cute and cuddly? HE'S A MONSTER HE CAN FIGHT sh*t  he had a weird little hoppy thing that I tried to fix... next I'm gonna try to make his tail less whiplike, then finally adding details and bounceEDIT:  look at those ears. that's adorable.I can't get the head fur to bounce right... just looks like PKSHEW ------------- |
Posted By: Zeratanus
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 8:38pm
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I really like the ear movement :D as for the head fur, it should probably be very subtle or none at all. I'd worry about the rest of it before that though. |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 9:46pm
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Originally posted by Zeratanus I really like the ear movement :D as for the head fur, it should probably be very subtle or none at all. I'd worry about the rest of it before that though. yeah but the thing is all the rest of it will be hair just like that, so if I can't get it right on the face... ------------- |
Posted By: skeddles
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 3:02pm
 should be noted that the game will be at 2xbut now he has some nice buttfur, just needs some tail texture ------------- |
Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 4:10am
| You're gonna have to work sooo hard to animate front and back and get the same quality. :b |
Posted By: H|F
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 4:19am
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I really love this! Can't believe you started out the way you did and now have this really awesome animation. Can't wait to see how the rest looks =D
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Posted By: bannanawalrus
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 9:33am
| if all the game art is this quality, it will be ultrasexylicious |
Posted By: ProfessorLayton
Date Posted: 28 November 2010 at 2:56pm
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I think it is definitely on the right track. I am not a master by any means, but I think it looks great so far. Texture the tail and fix the head fur movement and it will be a perfect animation. Even if you stop now it would look great. |