TakeOut, SedgeMonkey, and yours truly have been discussing putting together our own IsoCity/PixelDam/Mr. Wong's Soup Apartments. Of course, all that stuff has been done before but I propose a new way to do it... from the inside view.

I call it "The Joint"

proposed signage:
proposed link button:

Somebody had said we should have a larger size of room than the one below but, to ensure the apartments link properly and easily together, I decided that this should suffice for now. Later on, we could have luxury suites for those that want one. Start small as I always say.

Latest template:

Later on, as the project grows, we could have various types of rooms such as

- One bedrooms
- Two bedrooms
- Luxury Suites
- Rec areas (Community swimming pool, billiards, darts, etc. Community apartment bar??)

A seperate space with a link from the main site will be created : http://www.pixeljoint.com/thejoint - www.pixeljoint.com/thejoint  

All in all, this looks like it's a go just wanna hear from you guys about what you think and who's on board with us as well as ideas and suggestions to make this successful.

When the site space is up and runnning, there will be a download section to download the template in .psd and .psp formats. For now, I am assuming everyone's cool with my current template sooooo... start cracking kids!

Kinda like a neighbourhood.. Think PixelDam and IsoCity but as inside views apartments with hallways connecting them. These will be bachelor suites obviously... maybe even think of them as hostel rooms.. .with a bathroom here and there for communal washing etc. As I said, other styles of suites will come later.

I would also like to try and get a wall to surround them... more work on that later.

Great work so far pixelblink.  Your banner is freaking sweeet. The only thing that seems off is the way the rooms are not connected in any way.  It's kind of like a bunch of interiors of mini houses right now.  It's not that big a deal, but it'd be nice to see the rooms connect in some way.

I have jury duty and I'm still behind from my vacation so I'm going to be busy playing catch up at work the next couple of days. It might be a few days before I get a chance to post again. Keep going strong fellas.  I love this project!!!

Everything is connected from the hallways dude (the tiled areas that look like corriders). There are doors you can attach to your walls wherever you feel like as well.

I'm glad to see this post :)

from 1 or 2 years I want to see site as pixeldam or kennetfejer or ourcall with smaller rooms ...

some think for your very nice idea pixelblink :

maybe must have limits of colours, and some other limits, thin wall aren't good, more motions as second floor or balcony, quality of works need be good, links between projects, split of projects-because when you use only one limit for space than all rooms are in same type or near to same and many other :)

I think must have limit but have between one small space and one big space /inside and outside space for room/ and everybody can choose in what form will be his room ... and only then maybe can you have good conection between room in some tipe as tunnels, bridges or I don't know ...

I hope to have progress in this idea :)

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:) GDGB :)

Hmmm... I like the wall style zi- uses in his stuff. It's just a tad bit thicker.  More weighty.

http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixels/profile.asp?id=427 - http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixels/profile.asp?id=427

Also, it would be nice to have some variety of room sizes and the way the rooms connect is still an issue.

There's an image above that shows how they connect dude. As for walls and variety of sizes, I'd appreciate some examples from others. .. How about this one though? ....

Each floor would have this floor plan with an elevator in the foyer... if someone would like to make an elevator for this, that'd be wicked awesome! Maybe just a room itself that has the outside view of an elevator, mailboxes (on the main floor), etc?

i like those floors dude. I got some wicked floor tiles that I'm saving for when I make my apartment.

As you can see in the new version of the template I did, the walls are indeed now thicker. I also made the walls kind of wrap around the corner to see where the invisible wall would be.. also, I made new thicker doors that would be where those walls are too.

As for on the inside, everything is customizable... paint your walls, put new carpet/flooring in, put the doors wherever you want to put em.

I think, also, that if you want a larger space to work with, you can always reserve a few aparments and work out the space measurements... as long as it fits in properly I don't really mind. I'm also working on an exterior view of the hostel/building which will be a guide of tenants for each floor.

Those thick walls with the slight wrap are sweeet. It really helps give the rooms some depth. Beauty work.

What I was getting at with the connection rooms part is that they all look like mini-houses.  The rooms don't connect to each other at all with walls. It's not a problem, but I thought I would point it out.

Since the rooms are kind of like independent bungalows anyway you could allow the rooms to expand out a bit in each direction -- as long as the shape is maintained. Kind of like reserving some extra space like you mentioned pixelblink.

I'll try and write the code for the site this week now that you have a couple of example pieces.  Once you approve of the site we can work out how we are going to approve of submissions. I thought they could just submit their pieces through pixeljoint and the ones that meet the quality standards will be added to the site.  That way we can display the room pieces in different ways and we have all their information in a db so the project can sorta maintain itself once we get it going.

that sounds good dude. Also, the reason the rooms aren't connected to each other by walls is the fact that they'd overlap and we'd lose some space to show what's inside the rooms. Unless, you have an idea to fix that.. gimme a visual if you do.

I'm gonna try and give you a visual of the site layout I'd want as well... I'll try n do it tonight quickly

Sorry dude, totally passed this post without seeing it for some reason.

As you can see, I made the walls thicker. Also, larger rooms can be available for those with the skills to do them properly. Limited colours? Naw... I hate that rule myself. Why should I count my colours and limit my creative skills? If it's not like 1000 colours and it is true pixelart, it's cool with me.

As for your other suggestions, I'd love to see them presented visually so I can understand your vision.

I think don't need larger room ... need only space as example: "you must use space between "this" and "this" and than everybody can choose his version with different version of outlines ... else if I want to make circle room or rhomb what ?   ... then sprout question how or what connection between rooms is need ...

I promise to think about this ... else for me I take decision to make it in flash and have outlines of all rooms and when you put the mouse on them then room will be "loading" in this case don't need everybody to load all rooms ... I think if you see pixelmoon than you must stay and wait much time to see all projects ... and this isn't good ...

it isn't important to start soon ... important is to start with deliberation !!!

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:) GDGB :)

one think only: now the doors are very low ...

hm and another why need door in front ... can put only outlines from below ... thereby we have much free space for graphic art ...

hm OK ... I newer show this work somewhere /except of sedgemonkey/ but because my english is awful so maybe you can understand me best if I show my full WIP ...

http://img143.exs.cx/img143/1281/apartmentzi344cg.gif - http://img143.exs.cx/img143/1281/apartmentzi344cg.gif

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:) GDGB :)

The doors aren't low... you just have the guy standing on top or the door... if the door was ope he'd be underneath the frame and it'd look normal.

There are doors in front only if people choose to have them that way. I'm not gonna set that restriction.. it's up to them. Personally, I won't use them.

Your aparment is great! I wish we could put them together so they connect and you could still see all the detail but, it doesn't work like that unless it is made so you can put the mouse over a room to show it. I don't know what else to say about this... I'm just waking up

Get cracking dude... just be aware that there may be some small adjustments made before we open it up officially

Thanx dude.. but, call me Blink if anything... lol

Nice to hear someone actually appreciates what I'm trying to get going here :) I appreciate your recognition and I can't wait till everything is up and running so we can post your bad boy.. I know it's gonna rock

Blink, your right, pixel might be a little confusing on a pixel forum, haha.

I check this topic everytime I get on pixeljoint to see if anything is new or changed.

Brian, haha. Good choice.

You can call me by my real name if you want as well.. Steve (or even Steve-O)

I'm glad this has gotten such a large following.. though I'd like to see some more input from everyone

We could do an overview similar to zi's where when you mouseover or click it loads a detail view of the room on the side. 

Or we could do it so the rooms actually do overlap and your view is partially obstructed, but when you click on the room it brings the room to the front so you can see it clearly. That way you can do interesting floorplans and different sized rooms and not have to worry about other pieces obstructing the view.

yestarday I think about this idea for ISO rooms

and this is just another vision of me

now here you can pick space as much as you want /we can limit this space that much of .../ but this is only in one direction ... in other direction you must use area with or without space. With "room area" is at least space, but with "balcony area" is large. In this case you can make appartment with some rooms as toilet or 2 space as fitness hall or magazine or ...

more explanation: in area "without floor" can build all in air as vegetation, antenna or birds or ladders ... :)

for end so then we have many rooms or apartments with different style and always can put together in one floor ...

we can make many floors and every week have suggestion for favourite floor :)

PS

If you wait then soon I show about my idea to put in Flash ... then you need only one main movie with outlines and buttons big as areas  ... all room will be put in private movies and loading when anybody want :)

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:) GDGB :)

haha.. that sounds great. IF we use the corriders you're going to have to make that up

I like zi's template and example, but I'm a little confused by the two "area without floor" spots.  Is that where the edge of the building goes? That would be pretty neat to leave space for a spiffy building exterior, but that should probably require some sort of unification.  Maybe I just need to see an example of what goes in that area.

We will have to build an overhead grid where people reserve spots like pixelblink suggested (i think it was pixelblink) so the balcony spots are not overdone -- everyone can't have a balcony!

Sweeeet work Sibix.   I was thinking about doing a game room too. I love the monitor on the wall.

What game is that?  It looks a lot like pool, but the lines are funky.

Originally posted by Sibix

i enjoyed making  this so much and will also be making more (luxory suit maybe )

looks pretty fantastic dude. A couple of critiques though: try lightening it up a bit.. those walls are pretty dark. Also the monitor isn't giving an exact view of what's going on the table (if that's what it is). Also, the bookcase doesn't look very deep in comparison to some of the books... gimme some depth :)

we have unification - if "area for room" is obligatory then you can put all rooms /apartments/ one to other and everybody can use or not balcony space for balcony or for room and have choice how much will be room long ... in variant with many rooms one to other if anybody want to make ground without wall than what ? 

in my variant everybody can build interior in its preference ... must only keep areas as they are show and have minimum building space for "room area"

in upper appartment I'm not make balcony because I haven't time

now what we wil have as final: flor with apartments, rooms or interior spaces in 2 row ... thay can be in many variants as building spaces - otherwise we will have many rooms so good like "sibix" but when they go by way of example: 50 nobody will not remember works as separately room :)

Very nice work "sibix" congratulations :)

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:) GDGB :)

It looks like pixelblink's second template ended up being the default template so we might as well go with that right now I guess. 

Pixelblink is away for a bit.  Once he's back we'll start organizing the site for the submissions. 

Pixelblink: sound good?

Everyone else: Okay.

Pixelblink: Okay! Get cracking

Everyone else: Yes my leige. (bow down)

Alrighty then... how's this for a new template? It includes the other one so don't be freaking out kids.

Featured in this one:
- multiple rooms
- coloured guidelines (follow em folks)
- an elevator (not customizable)
- balconies (you're welcome Zi)

As you can see below, I've incorporated some ideas of posts past and made it into a better more adapatble floor. This is to allow the more experienced pixel artists to create a whole floor for themselves (Give yourself a den, kitchen, washroom, etc. ... Yay, somewhere to piss now). Of course this might leave some other pixelists in the fray... panic not! If approved, collaborations on floors will be encouraged. We don't wanna leave these floors barren of pixels yanno.

Any thoughts?

Almost missed this... Thank you pixelblink for taking this to the next level.  I have two big projects to wrap up in the next couple of weeks, but once I'm done I will dedicate some serious time to making a kickass site for this project.

This is really turning into an awesome project.  I love all the work people have been posting so far.

im not the isometric kind of guy. i love them but i can't do it myself. and i have many room ideas.

1. apartment from scarface with bloody bathroom.

2. alien vs. predator alien hive lol

3. mini-movie theatre with "pixel-joint the movie" playing.

4. mass murderer room with blood and guts all over the place.

some great ideas there dude... might some of those :)

I can't speak for blink, but I would think animations are fine (as long as the file size isn't out of control) and there is definitely no palette restrictions.

animations would be the shiznizzle yo

word to no palette restrictions too

I just thought of something that might be cool... Why don't we do an elevator button panel for navigating between floors.  Empty floors would just say "out of order" or something when you click on them.

Also, I started on the site today.  I'm using the floor template that you created above blink.  I think it's very clear and cool and will work perfectly for the project.  It would help to have a small pixel apartment building exterior to integrate into the site design, but that can wait until you see the initial site design up I guess.

Edit: The template needs hallways damnit!   How the hell can you get to the elevator with the current layout.  I'm going to adjust the template so there's hallways that lead to the elevator. 

look at where the door is on the elevator sedge... there's a hallway outside of it

I see the elevator one, but I actually meant the hallways between rooms.  I spent all day working on a modification that I hope works out. I edited the elevator room just so it would fit with my design, but you can change it anyway you like once I post the proposed site. 

The Joint shall soon be up and running kids! Sedge and I are trying to finish it up with the fine tuning and programming stuff and whole design aspect. There's gonna be some eye catching new stuff going outside of your rooms and on the whole site as well.

In the meantime, just keep making your rooms and post them in a new thread so we can help you get them ready and approved for The Joint :)

Yep, I said approved... not every single room that goes our way will be accepted. We will adhere to a standard of quality. Got a problem with that? Too bad. Learn your craft don't bitch about it... lol

Plenty of tutorials on this site and others that will help you become a better isometric pixel artist.

Questions? Go ask your mommy

I was debating the Flash thing for awhile and I think it might work for phase 2.  If I'm going to do a Flash site I want to do all the bells and whistles... transitions between floors, detail view transitions, elevator movement, sounds, etc.  I just don't have the time to spend on it right now. 

Hopefully the vanilla HTML site will still be cool.

Just a little common sense reminder that the rooms are only customizable INSIDE the room... just like real life. You can do the parts of the walls that wouldn't normally be seen but, they won't show up like that in the joint yo.

Also, I really, really, REALLY want to stress the fact that these rooms ought to have some time and creativity put into them. If you don't know how to do isometric, learn it. If you aren't sure how to do a particular thing, ask somebody. If your room is not approved, don't bitch about it... learn from it and make it better and it could be approved in the future.

If you don't like doing isometric, don't get involved with this project. There are many other prjects going on within this forum... the game, evolution, frankenstein, etc.

The Joint is very close to being completed and we will be seeing some wicked apartments being showcased there. I want to thank everybody for their help (especially Sedge, of course) and their participation in getting this going.

Psychotic_Carp: If you are searching for ideas why not just take a room from your life and create an interesting scenario?  Like a kitchen on fire or a bedroom being invaded by aliens or a living room being burglarized. Have fun with it.

maybe a frank lloyd right room?

I hope it's okay, but I took a whack at this:

heh, overwhelmed by girlyness! XD XD Usually, I don't make things so... pink. But I felt the sudden urge to make a lizard valley girl XD XD

Wow, looks like a pink explosion. Very cute... I like the little lizard working out in front of the TV and that nifty little star lamp.

Couple of questions about the room... what ae the blue and white things next to the lizard and what is that silver thing on the right hand side of the room?

Hello, I'm VERY new to pixel joint, and I'm very interested in this project, but of course I am not able to start soon as I have yet to finish my current project.

But that template is what we are using right? And we are only making one floor? Or.. how? :)

Thanks.

You can check out everything you need to know (including templates and examples) here...

http://www.pixeljoint.com/thejoint/ - http://www.pixeljoint.com/thejoint/

If you have further questions you can post here again. Good luck!