FishDick :: Pixel Art Detail

i like the concept of fish with ears, i think if the the tail-fin was shaded i'd lokk better, but good job anyway...

love it

This is really good the texture and shading and colors are really good, and such a crazy concept

Fierce! wow, nice work here, i see why it got top pixel art. Great work.

why dick? I ve got my personal theory

these ears strongly resemble ears of Jerzy Urban, and the shape of the fish resembles the shape of Urban's head. Urban was spokesman of communistic government in late 80's in Poland, now he publishes controversial, left oriented and anticlerical magazine. He is controversial character, symbol of red propaganda and metamorphosis from commie to capitalist. For some he is an icon of fight against clerical state and polish dumbass right wing populists. He is hated by many and called by them DICK WITH EARS.

"Fishdick" was also name of  Acid Drinkers'  (polish metal band) EP - that's might have been an additional association;)))

Am I right, Slay?

I woun't add anymore comments to "is it pixelled" discussion. I saw so many images that looked like freekin photo and were handpixelled and also auto-dithered 24-bits that looked like 100% pixelart.

Whats important for me is - Does the image look good ? Why \ why not ?

Of course this is way above the average pieces around here.
But it also have some serious issues you worshipers might not see.

1st of all, imho, the noise thing (whether it is hand made or function) didnt help the image a single bit. I certainly wouldnt call it "inovation" and I cant say it makes the pixel thing any more "art".

2nd the image have some lighting issues, specificaly so popular light-inconsistency. It seems that for the different part of the object light shines differently wich makes the shape hard to recoginze. It is really seen on (but not only) the blue light effect ,hat is imho out of place.

3rd there are some shape nonsenses I think. For example the topmost blue-ish fin someho doesnt fit there, the same as the left ?eye?. Question is also what exactly should be the bump leading from center of mouth on the down side of the fish. Shouldnt the animal be roughly symetric ?

Again I like it and dont want to critique the autor very much. But I also dont feel that its so perfect and should be so fiercily defended.

Also I think the issues I have noted here, can be more-less seen on all Slays images.

"This fish reminds me of the game from Yoot Saito where you could chat with your fish about the meaning of life. Can't remeber the name though. Outstanding work either way."
I believe that game was called "Seaman". A name of a ranking on this website, too. Very ironic...

Yeah... I dunno whether this is actually pixeled or not, so I'll just leave it alone. Maybe you should post an animation/video of you making your next piece. Might clarify things.

Yeah, you answered the background question, but I still don't know why you called the piece "FishDick?" And by the way, calm er' down big brother, obviously his  works have been let in and ok'd by the correct authorities, all of whom I trust know their pixel art. It's just "perrty" and thats all we really care to think about it. And yes, I'm aware that Slay has been under fire in the past as to whether it is or isn't true pixel art. Sure, it's not perfect, like everybody elses work here at pixeljoint, but it sure as hell ain't half bad either. You seem to have a hard time taking a comment, man. Just let it flow, and you'll be alright. But seriously, whats with the name "Fishdick?"...

Any schmuck can do "hand-imitation of dirty tools", pal (since there's really no way to tell between the imitation and the actual dirty tools in this case). It's not innovation. And it's certainly not new. Your misuse of the term "hand-pixelled" is also not new (but it is deceptive to the newer, more impressionable people that visit this site).

If you re-read me message, I listed some SPECIFIC advice on improving this work. Advice which wouldn't require you to ditch your "innovative" style. Take it or leave it, but don't try not to be a total cock about it. You're not some classic artist who's martyred for his work.

Besides, it's just pixel, dude. This is a media rooted in fucking videogames, for Christ's sake. It will never be sold for millions of dollars at some auction so you can stop being so pretentious about it.

Silver: It does make sense.  There are many doubts over the purity of slay's work.  Beautiful as it may be i am not convinced that this is 100% pixelart.  Read indigo's comment here: http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/2867.htm .  I would love to think someone could create pixel art this perfect, however this can't be 100%.

What you said big brother dont make any sense , you have no strong reason to say its not a pixel art , have you ever been to demoscene site and see how much time 1 piece sometimes take , how many colors they waste on AA to make it soft , and how many shades .

Its Not my case if you belive or not , Its up to you .

+ Im not neophytes

If this is indeed raw pixel art, it's sloppy. Look at the inconsistent AA along the outermost edge of the fish and the black pixels along the underside of the jaw. The yellow ochre -> light blue transition is rough at best (you go between two relatively saturated colors with no buffer). The eyes need to be differentiated from the texture of the scales (shinier, perhaps?) because as it is, they don't stand out (same color as the rest, too). As far as the design goes, I get the ear thing replacing the gills, but perhaps the fish could use some fins on its sides.

I would like to see you attempt something more simple and clear, Slay. Focus on the design rather than getting caught up in the fiddly dithering and dirty tools (or your hand-done imitation of dirty tools).

I hope this post helps you and any neophytes who can't see "whats wrong with it"...

whats wrong with it , its 100% pixel art .

How many hours did this take slay ?

It's so good that at first sight, I didn't even think it was pixel art. I had to zoom in to re-asure myself that it was.

I think you should get prepared to  get many comments, jagging on about "this is not pixelart" , so to all you doubters out there, It shure as hell is pixelart, and so is the rest of his art!

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