Ugh. Not this crappy pseudoscience again. It's dangerous nonsense, and some people who believe this kind of crap are dying because of it.

Whenever someone talks about "energy" in that way, you can be absolutely sure they are talking nonsense. That's not what energy is, at all.

Anyway, from what we know about the universe, our mind is nothing but a product of biochemistry. Anything else beyond that is a matter of belief, without any evidence so far that it is true. And trust me, the people who would want it to be true are the ones who admit it isn't due to lack of evidence.

Thinking our minds can alter reality, or particularly DNA which is nothing but a big molecule made of little repeating chunks of atoms, is a ridiculous idea. Here's why.

Our body is made of billions of billions of cells, all of which have their own copy of our DNA. The DNA is made of little chunks, called bases. There are four of these, but there could have been any number of them. All life on Earth just happens to have evolved from an initial molecule that happened to have 4 bases.

DNA is just a redundant version of RNA (which is just one side of the double spiral). The whole thing is really just a very ingenious recipe for creating proteins. The complexity of effects of the DNa code in physiology is staggering, having arisen from billions of years of evolution, and we're only beginning to understand it.

Now, what this guy proposes is that your mind can manipulate trillions of individual atoms, which have to be in the right place close to all the trillions of individual copies of DNA in the right time, on these trillions of cells in the specific configuration to create these bases, in the right place in all these parts of the genome for making anything useful and specific happen in the overall physiology of the body, which in the end depends on YOUR interpretation of it.

All this without the mind having any innate understanding of physics, chemistry, biology or genetics, and without having any noticeable power over matter, specially matter at that absolutely invisible scale. Yeah, that sounds really likely.

"Do you know what they call alternative medicine that has been proven to work?

Medicine." - Tim Minchin

Edited by 1ucas - 21 April 2010 at 5:52pm

http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22720

Edited by drr - 22 April 2010 at 4:43am

Every time someone says 'I do not believe in fairies', somewhere there's a fairy that falls down dead. 

It's not pseudoscience dammit! And here's my proof!

And how can you deny THIS as legitimate proof?!

Sure you can. He's a single person going against the mainstream, one guy against the well-established scientific theories supported by the entire scientific community. It's not me against him, it's the entire scientific community against him, and I'm just on the side of the community here.

If a geologist claims Earth is only 6000 years old, he's likely to be nuts. I don't have to be a geologist to understand why that claim is false, I just have to know enough about the science behind it. Knowledge is knowledge, it doesn't take a degree to make it worth something.

Also, if this guy had any solid evidence to support his wild claims, he would have already gained enormous prestige in the scientific world. He would have an edition of Nature and Scientific American dedicated to his work. I doubt that's happening.



No, but I'm a HUGE physics, astronomy, chemistry and biology enthusiast about to start my higher education on physics, and I know how these things work well enough to not call it magic.

just read the link in Drr's post 

I'm a very spiritual person (If I had to guess I'd say most pixelartists are atheist), but I have to call bullsh*t on this. Agreed with everything everyone else said here. :P

1ucas = ...what community? you're the only one who are going against him... well I give him credit, cause after all he's an actual scientist, I can't give you much credit for saying he's wrong, since you're not even a scientist to begin with...

once again, it's not you the reason why I chose to give him credit / believe him, it's just common sense that I have to listen to him instead of you, cause he's the one that has the side of the experience... as you can tell, he points out why the people who believe in evolution is wrong, etc.

greenraven = if you watched it and didn't get it, it's cause you didn't pay attention haha.

Greenraven = Haha well it's science, it isn't easy stuff anyways.

It's goodnight from me as well to you (just swallowed that sleeping pill 20 mins ago and it's doing it's effect as it is now).

"Actual Science"

:/

drr = you also don't need to comment if you have nothing constructive to say.

can we all act maturely? this is a serious topic, while I don't agree with 1ucas and his views, etc at least he contributes his share, not just talk stuff that derives from the topic.

DDR = That's right damnit hahaha...

jk man.

Forgiven.

*saves meal*

not to mention there's a whole field of psychology that asserts that the "mind" and other private events cannot be observed, and hence, cannot be studied empirically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMLrA_0O5I