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Platnium
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soda
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I don't think it's ready. There's almost no shading, the face... two dots and a line? And the hat's colors are to dark, there's also no shading on that. And that title is pretty weird.
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Blueberry_pie
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Why the dithering on the hat? It's the same pattern on the whole thing, and it doesn't create any texture at all because the colours are so similar. (I didn't even see it was dithered at 1x zoom)
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Platnium
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Ok i will make the hat like take all the dithering of and do the shading again and show you.
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Platnium
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Is this better
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soda
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Not really, you need more contrast. It doesn't look any different. Fix the face also.
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Platnium
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How are these.
normal:
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Hatch
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People are going to be disinclined to help you if completely ignore their very good advice. You really need to fix the problems with this piece that have already been pointed out before moving on to animation.
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Platnium
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Well im not so sure what contrast is (sorry im quite young) and i have change the eyes and mouth, i think it may be done now, not sure.
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soda
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If you need more contrast, you would make the color brighter, against another color.
And you could only be at least 13, because that's the youngest you could be on PJ. As for the picture? Add some eyebrows, a shadow on the nose, define the shape of the head more, and the mouth needs more details. |
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Platnium
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ok im on it right now and i will show you.
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Hatch
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You could crack a dictionary if you don't know what contrast is.
At any rate, as soda said, it is:
• Enhancement of the apparent brightness or clarity of a design provided by the juxtaposition of different colors or textures. And juxtaposition means "stuff being next to other stuff" (definition provided by my towering intellect) |
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Platnium
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Is this ok yet?
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soda
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I'm sorry to say, but no. Like I said, add more contrast in the hat and face. Shape the head better, maybe make a chin.
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Hatch
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Don't worry about submitting this to the gallery. All you need to worry about right now is improving as an artist and learning some basic pixel techniques. Assume you will never submit this to the gallery and that it's just for practice. Take your time. Learn. Grow.
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Platnium
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OK, but you people are a tough crowd hows this i tried with the contrast not sure if its working or not and added a chin, i don't really thinki need to change the shape so i left it and added a chin, hows it look.
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soda
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![]() Heres a REALLY crappy edit I did in 4 mins, but theres the idea. |
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Hatch
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The shading is still practically invisible at 1x. Make your darks DARKER and make your brights BRIGHTER. Don't be scared. Go crazy with the light/dark.
EDIT: Soda posted while I was typing this. Look at his example! See how you can actually tell there are two different shades on the skin? Edited by Hatch - 16 July 2007 at 10:04am |
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Platnium
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ok, i was scared of getting it wrong, i guess i'm still in the newb stage of pixelling i only starting a couple weeks ago (damn i'm rubbish) i just hope i get the hang of it.
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Platnium
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ok, i added another shade on the hat and face and put more Contrast in i think it looks alright now, still not changing the shape, i like how it is,it looks a little like south park's cartman, but i did'nt make it look like him so here it is:
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soda
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It hasn't changed.
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Platnium
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It has i have changed the shading on it and colours.
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Hatch
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He's saying it has not changed perceptibly. Keep making your lights lighter and your darks darker.
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Platnium
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Damn this is hard, hows this:
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soda
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He's too orange
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Hatch
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Indeed he is, but let's not let this milestone pass unnoticed: Platnium, that shading is better.
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soda
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It is.
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Platnium
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ok, i will make him less orange.
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Hatch
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Hooray! *confetti*
Now, ditch the harsh black outlines on his facial features and make his nose less bizarre. |
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Platnium
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ok, then u think its submitable.
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Hatch
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Originally posted by Hatch
Don't worry about submitting this to the gallery. All you need to worry about right now is improving as an artist and learning some basic pixel techniques. Assume you will never submit this to the gallery and that it's just for practice. Take your time. Learn. Grow. |
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Platnium
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Yes i know but i think i put alot of hard work in so why not submit it and look now:
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Hatch
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He's even more orange and there's even less contrast. And his chin is still harsh black.
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Platnium
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So if i take out the orange and change the chins form black to the other and show you you say ok you think i can submit it.
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Hatch
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No. Assuming you do all that, you should then put it in your "My Pixel Art" folder in C:\Documents\, reflect on what you've learned, start thinking about what you need to work on, and put all that thought towards your next practice piece.
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Platnium
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Ok, so if i make a man i will ise what i have learnt, ok this is my final peice no matter what i am adding no more, changing no more color, or any thing, i leave you with this.
first ever peice:
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Blueberry_pie
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Platnium, instead of focusing on making this good enough for the PJ gallery, why not focus on making it great? You'll never improve much by always going for adequate. Art is about pushing your limits, it's not something you just try to get over with as quickly as possible.
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Hatch
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Blueberry_pie said in three elegant sentences what I've been trying to say for the entire thread.
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Kfuchoin
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that can be worked a lot more and i meand A LOT!
i don't think you want to submit that (wont be accepted)...
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may the pixels be with you..
~Kfuchoin eMo looking for people for an RPG info: http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4903 |
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Platnium
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ye ok well i'm already started making a new peice and i will not try making it good i will go for great and we will see what happens so until next time,
Thats all folks.
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soda
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I say keep going with this, It might turn out ok.
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Platnium
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Ok i will, you think i need to change the face color (again) becuase i don't want to do i just need to do alot of touch ups.
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soda
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I suggest starting all over, and showing your step by step process.
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leel
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I suggest pulling out some paper and pencils and just getting the basics of drawing down. How old are you again?
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Platnium
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I'm 13, any way i started again but i need some hair tutorials know any?
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leel
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Just google some. You're not that young, there's some things you'll have to do on your own, because even though we're really excited to help you, we won't baby you. Now move your cursor up to the address bar and type in "google.com" and press enter.
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Platnium
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Lol, first link http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24455158/
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leel
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that's not a really good one. Besides, the reason for looking it up yourself is that you see a variety, not just the first link you reach
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Platnium
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Anyway i heard that people use photo shop 5/6 any one know a link to a free trial so i can see what its like.
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Christopher
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Well when someone is using photoshop, the only advantages they should have shouldnt be anything overpowering any other drawing program, bceause that would make it non pixel art.
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