broke: limited color palette
woke: avoid single pixels and diagonals
bespoke: minimum cluster size
I'm looking for a pixel tutor (this is paid) to give me feedback and help me improve. Private message me if you're interested!
Your work was voted to be rejected due to the use of color reduction.
The WIP wasn't conclusive so we voted.
I've been wondering why my latest work has stuck on the approval level :(
haha，thanks！It's so unremarkable
I noticed I only rated twice, so where to rate it？
Don't we have enough pixel art as-is? Just close the damn gallery! :p
in other words the future is uncertain and there will be a lot of fights about galery rules and the definition of pixel art 
apparently the combination of empress and fool is strange one as those are opposing cards :D
https://tarocchi-gratis.online/en/combinations-tarot/the-fool-and-the-empress/
and the moon represents intuition as well as confusion or the sign that not everyhting is as it seems
Ok, but why we do not have a reading of the results? What does The Empress, The Fool, The Moon mean to us?
As long as you didn't vote Tower, Tower, Tower you're probably fine.
As you probably know, the Death card is supposed to indicate rebirth, change and transitions, so it's actually kind of a positive fortune. Maybe Mathias' certain death will be benefitial in the grand scheme of things. 
what if when you voted for three of the weekly chall' tarot cards, PJ had a script that used your input to calculate an actual tarot card reading for you, thereby telling your fortune as a pixel artist.
i voted for Death, Death, Death. rip
Gonna need some Top10 trophies for the Tarot weekly challenge. I have no idea how to vote for just 3. 
I hate the idea that someone might, even for a second, be tricked into thinking that those recently showing adverts of most atrociously hideous NFTs are a part of PJ gallery.
You must have visited the old one. Here's the official one:
https://discord.com/invite/gNFUyXk
imgur.com/kP3xJbL (You cant drag and drop images in Win 11 anymore :P)
Frost . . . what's the story there? Were you livin' that perpetual LAN party life?
-{ old CRT setup show-n-tell, ~2003 }-
That would be a pretty small flat, considering all the CRT monitors 
I don't think I could afford anything bigger than 20sq metres, and I have a dvi monitor, a CRT monitor, two CRT TVs and a LED TV, and I don't think I could store all my consoles there, so I'd have to choose a few to stay and store the others somewhere else. 
I might have to keep my ceramics 3D printer there too if I can't find shared studio space, so in terms of room it could get a bit cramped...
I once lived with around 10-11 CRT monitors in a pretty small flat (24 square meters, iirc).
It's doable, people!
@Christoballs: yeah, i struggle with space as well. but well, i already have one (not fully functional) tv so i'm this close to buy another pc crt just to have something which works :E
@Hapiel: uhm... i think asking for a freebie is highly inappropriate. however, i just looked at the itch.io page and he released the lite version for non-commercial projects for free! praise be! 
If you explain that to MRMO, I'm pretty sure he'd be able to share it with you :)
@b236: yes, I believe you're looking for a Trinitron or something similar, right?
Mrmo's CRT thing would interest me because it could be quite easy to mock up a pixel art piece on it, without me having to use real hardware I don't have. Plus, I may have to come to terms with the fact I might not have room for a CRT in the next place I'm going to rent...
@Christoballs: on a different topic: i didn't, but i hope i'll get my hands on it one day (i don't use internet banking, so i can't buy it for now)
but more than that i'd love to finally get working real life crt :E i completely forgot how frustrating old tech can be.
the biggest plot twist in history of anime!
Ugh, I hoped this discussion was done by now. As Vrine said, same thing as last time. I agree with Cure that this should be very over and that our engaging is what keeps it alive, but at the same time it's sadly come to our attention that other people are reading along, and without the right context they might read Greenraven's outrageous claims as truths.
So to set a few things straight:
Greenraven's brother left in 2006. I don't know what happened, but I do know that none of the people who were on the team back then have been on the PJ team in the past 5 years, in fact most of them had already quit moderating in 2008.
"Flamey" aka Flameruler did not "defend his work", he behaved like a little kid on the internet being confused and trolling, like kids do. However, this kid grew up, and I can happily say that I'm friends with him, that he has been very successful with pixel art, and that he feels no resentment to PJ at all. In fact, he may be one of our best known members, just operating under a different username these days.
Rav did never ever defend his work, in fact he did not produce any work. Much like Greenraven right now, Rav joined here to start a debate club, and then those debates spiraled into fights including personal attacks, which is why he was removed from this site. If you look at Rav's comment log you'll see that none of the discussions he was involved with were related to (pixel) art, he did not submit any art, there was no work to defend.
These are not "old grudges", these are false claims about a past that did not exist.
I'm sorry Greenraven can't find the actual discord server despite it being linked in my earlier posts.
Also I'm sorry that he believes there is such a thing as an "admin log" that shows the deletion of many gallery items, which is simply not true, as that never ever happened.
Those who are still worried about PJ's past and want to learn more about it, contact me and I'll gladly supply you with all the resources, intense discussions (internal and external) or even insider "admin logs"
For whatever it's worth, this message does only reflect my view but is also signed by Gecimen, Gawrone, and Christoballs.
On a different topic: has anybody tried Mrmo Tarius's MRMO-CRT?
"Now, if you have "lost" your firends becasue they were not allowed to post NPA on a gallery clearly only about PA, than they probably were not your friends in the first place."
My brother was a member here once. Then one random day one of the mods told him to go kill himself so he never came back here ever again. Many other people were in the exact same situation, they weren't really given much of a choice in staying.
Then others like Flamey and Rav were turned into pariahs for staying and defending their work.
https://pixeljoint.com/p/4085.htm
https://pixeljoint.com/p/41334.htm
So one way or the other I still lost friends in the end. Kinda hard to say they weren't really my friends if they weren't given much of a choice.
But yeah I can kinda see how this looks like to new members. And honestly I'm not trying to restart old grudges, as I've said multiple times now this was only supposed to be a quick comment about jal that somehow snowballed.
Also I checked out discord the other day, I don't know what you guys are talking about there's virtually no activity there. Someone asked if jal was dead a few days ago and the last post before that was around september of 2021.
@Gecimen - Two things here. 1) When someone says they want to watch "an old movie" they could mean one of the action movies from 1990 like Terminator. When someone else says they want to watch "an old movie" they could mean one of the black & white movies from 1940 like Casablanca. When I say "old community" I mean "AOL buddy icons" old.
2) Just because someone had an account back then doesn't mean they were involved in the day to day politics of the site. Plus I don't need anyone to vouch for me, the admin logs have all the proof you need.
@tinc - Pot, kettle, obsidian.
@Cyangmou - That's basically what I'm saying. The ideas of a few somehow became mistaken for site-wide doctrine. It's why I called it an outlier ideology, especially when we had artists from places like LucasArts coming here and scratching their heads.
@vrine - Feel free to change the subject, I'm done here, this was never supposed to go this far in the first place.
I remember when we had this exact same discussion started by the same person last year. Time flies!
You say you miss the old days of PJ and then you talk about thousands of people being chased away from the site in the same old days.
Btw, some people discussing here are either equally long or even longer time members than you are and nobody's backing up this "hundreds of thousands of pieces were scrubbed from the site" thing so I'm having a hard time believing you. Sure, a few people must have been scared off from the site but I'm not sure there ever was an organized purge.
Excuse me but, I'm not build on alienating anyone. I'm a mod since last year and I've started pixelling in 2019. I don't care about things that happened over 10 years ago I want to be part of pixel art community as it is now. There is nothing wrong in having a gallery of only pixel art, aspecially when there is no other place like that. We can talk about definitions, how different types of them work and which ones serve what functions, how they coevolve with art practice and how their usage adapts over time, but I know this topic was mauled here many times recently and back then. Now, if you have "lost" your firends becasue they were not allowed to post NPA on a gallery clearly only about PA, than they probably were not your friends in the first place. I'm against bullying and if there actually were decissive people who supported bullying, then where are they now? Oh, they are not here anymore? That probably means something. But "NPA spotter award" is not about bullying but about helping a small group of hobbyist mods to keep the PA gallery a PA gallery. Bullies can use "like" or "retweet" buttons for bullying. Limiting our tools is not a way to fight bullies. If you are so much against hate please stop wasting your energy on a decade old grudge, and use it to help the community get rid of all the faults you see in it instead of just pointing them (even if most of those points are just false), becasue I belive you have left here for some reason other than ruminating about past in the chatterbox. We are now positive and focused on the future. Everyone is encouraged to participate in our thriving community. This means you too greenraven. If you are one of the Jal's scholars, please share with us the art you made thanks to his guidance. Please share your experience commenting art of others. And use your commenting energy to motivate users - if you feel we are not doing that enough it means that your help in that matter would be very useful. And please join our collabs as there are many, contrary to your believes. If you cannot use discord and you are nostalgic about forum you can always join the current iso collab. I've never meet Jal but if he was such a wonderful teacher I would love to see your tiles. This time we have a carnival/theme park/circus topic.
Yes, purges, really. That's neither an exaggeration nor a hyperbole. This new community was built on alienating a large portion of the old community.
If you want to know PixelJoint's true legacy and not the comfortable lie that most people live with today then I suggest you dig through the admin action logs. You'll see the period where hundreds of thousands of pieces were scrubbed from the site and the artists were told to "post your shit somewhere else". And then they started handing out those "NPA Spotter" awards to encourage bullying and harassment for those that still did pixels the "wrong" way.
I still remember all the friends I lost.
Anyway this was only supposed to be a quick comment about jal and has spiraled into something else entirely different.
The problem is that pixel purity was an extremist outlier ideology that the younger members mistook as gospel. If you repeat a lie long enough it will be indistinguishable from the truth. When the purges started to happened that just reaffirmed for some that "this is the one true way", which it's not, it's just PJ's way.
Okay, so this is about how you define pixel art, or at least how you don't define pixel art. You're framing the situation as there being one truth - I believe that talking about truth for a subject matter like art is fallacious.
I think it's a lot healthier and productive to have multiple perspectives on how one would define pixel art, and to engage in that discussion, to challenge those notions, either strengthening them, adapting them or even changing them. Striving for inclusivity and flexibility works in that direction.
What do you mean by "pixel purity"? Why do you qualify it as an extremist outlier ideology? I'm pretty sure I remembered the late 2000s/early 2010s being a time when pixel art was being defined as a medium, and as such, there was discussion around what its specificities were.
Also, purges? Really?? That's pushing it.
I joined PJ in 2010, been modding over 9 years now, so I don't know that 2007-8 you're talking about. But since 2010, if anything has changed about PJ, it's WAY more active (including Discord but why not?) and we're just a bunch of people trying to keep it that way. We're all busy people IRL, the site doesn't even belong to us but we still produce ideas, projects, contests, keep daily and weekly routines and choires... Only because we love pixel art and we want it to have a specialized portal and not just be buried in the ocean of social media. This is the only place that you can search for the works of thousands of artists from years back. We aren't asking for praise, but help is more welcome than harsh criticism :)
I wasn't even here when the old artists were "chased away" as you call it, so current mods won't take the blame for it. I have actually been stalking new artists on twitter and facebook and telling them to post their work on PJ for years, I'm sure many of us are doing the same.
Ens and Blink, yeah, they started the trend. Jal and I were always opposed to it.
The problem is that pixel purity was an extremist outlier ideology that the younger members mistook as gospel. If you repeat a lie long enough it will be indistinguishable from the truth. When the purges started to happened that just reaffirmed for some that "this is the one true way", which it's not, it's just PJ's way.
I'm tempted to put that claim of "inclusive and flexible" to the test by submitting my oekaki and voxels.
old man keeps telling the youngsters how much the world used to be better back in the day.
then proceeds to blame them for screwing everything up.
youngsters back in the day: not even born yet.
world back in the day: dumpster fire.
I'm sorry but wouldn't the blame for that go to Ens and Jal in that case? The people that actually were admins at the time. If anything I'd say PJ has become way more inclusive and flexible in recent years.
As passionate as many of the old mods were there was also a way shittier attitude, especially Ens could be downright vindictive and agressive. I'm very happy with our current crop of mods and the work they do.
"But overall, I think this community and site deserves more praise than criticism."
I'll give this place all the praise it wants when you guys bring back all those LucasArts, Sierra, Silcon Knights, MicroProse, and Westwood artists you chased away during the purity purges and apologize to them for lecturing them about what "is and isn't" pixel art. These people were creating pixels long before most of us were even born, I think they know what is and isn't pixel art.
As for the rest of it like I said I don't hang around on discord much, I'm only looking at the site at face value, so I'll take your word on it.
Also not to rain on your parade about livestreams but Frankie was doing livestreams before most people even knew what Twitch was.
Anyway, people asked me what the old times were like and I gave them an answer, carry on.
Pixelween was epic.
Chatterbox < Discord < Forum < Street collab Metaverse with haptic gloves
i honestly can't wait for this year's pixelween. the last one was so much work fun!
ah my favorite chatterbox! Who's ready for the metaverse! killmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Talk about being selfless, amongst other things Hapiel hadn't even mentioned the immensely popular and successful Pixelween 2020 & Pixelween 2021 which he put together, and has helped bring several pixel art communities together!
Edit: Hapiel did mention it, but credit goes to him, nevertheless
If it's just for selling art, there's no need for NFTs. The essence of NFT is virtual currency of different denominations, and the picture is just the packaging of this currency. Artists may benefit from NFTs, but NFTs have nothing to do with artists.
I don't know if its a language barrier thing but you have a very naive and simplistic view of NFTs. Of course they can be profitable for the individual, that is not in question by any critic of them, it is that the "system" requires losers left when the few winners cash out before the whole thing crumbles. You speak of Fool's art but take a look at the quality of the average pixelart NFT and think about if "art" has anything to do with it. A NFT is just a link to a picture, the "art" aspect of NFTs is just hype to cover the fact that it is just a pyramid scheme. Also I advice you to look up the word "greenwashing".
I'm sure there's a good spanish language critique of NFTs for you to look into. If something seems "to good to be true", well it probably is. Best of luck.
Yeah except I pointed to an award I got, and let me throw in one of the earlier awards you got-
When was the last time someone received one of those? Where is the charm? Where is the personality? Most awards now are "top commenter", "most pixels", very dry and corporate.
Also I didn't say "valuable" I said "sense of community" two very different concepts.
I do clean ntfs (non-polluting), and I sell it, it has been very beneficial for me, and people really like to collect my art, in fact they resell and treasure them, in my case it was a really great experience!
They allow me to live from my art, in a much more comfortable way than if I had to do the traditional commissions
just imagine that fool designs a unique work of art to be sold as nft, and if you get that work, it would be very valuable, and if you want to sell, and if you sell it, you could get more money than you invested, and the artist would receive royalties for each resale, for life.
for me it sounds very good
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