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CHALLENGE: Last Light

Pixel a scene lit by just a single candle.

Canvas Size - Unrestricted.
Colours - Max 32.
Transparency - No.
Animation - Optional.


CHALLENGE RULES

  • Participants have until this upcoming Sunday at midnight (12AM Pacific) to submit their entry (strict). Don't forget to check the 'Submit to weekly challenge' checkbox.
  • Only new pixels allowed.
  • Open to all members.
  • Posting WIPs in this thread or in new threads in the WIP section is highly encouraged, but ONLY SUBMIT YOUR FINAL ART.

CHALLENGE JUDGING

  • Every Sunday at midnight (12AM Pacific) the previous week's entries are judged.
  • Every week a new voting poll will be posted for previous week's entries.
  • Winner announced the following week.

CHALLENGE PRIZES/GOODIES

  • Top three finishers will receive an award displayed in your PJ gallery profile for all to see and envy.
  • Top finisher gets to call the following week's challenge...sweet.
  • 'Participation' ribbons will be given for all who enter.
  • No matter what happens you get challenged :)

CHALLENGE VOTING

Vote now for your favorite pixelart in this week's challenge!

CHALLENGE AWARDS

The Last Light pixel art challenge is complete and we have three new champions. This week's challenge awards go to the following pieces:



Thanks so much to all who took the time to vote and participate in the challenge!

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Quote AirStyle Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 6:06am
can the candle produce sparks, then those sparks, in turn, create light?

How about the candle lighting other candles?

Just want to cover all my bases, here...

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Quote Spherical Ice Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 8:39am
Could it just be a candle? Or does it have to be a scene with little light (from the candle)?

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Quote greenee22 Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 9:00am
Originally posted by Spherical Ice

Could it just be a candle? Or does it have to be a scene with little light (from the candle)?


I guess you could only make a candle... dunno if that's better though
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Quote showtime Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 9:13am
Would I be allowed to incorporate somebody using an aerosol spray to use the candle as a flamethrower, kind of like this?(Don't try this at home, kids!)

Just for some context, my idea is kind of an elaborate one for an animation, and most of the time it would be just the candle lighting up the scene as you would expect it to...

I'm pretty busy lately, though, so not sure if my brilliant idea will ever see the light of day. : (
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Quote greenee22 Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 10:08am
ok I started this:



and I think I'm coming along pretty well (don't expect to win though =P)
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Quote baah Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 10:57am
First participation from me.
I doubt i'll have the necessary skills to do correct lighthing but i'll try...



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Quote Mrmo Tarius Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 11:24am
Haha greenee22, that looks exactly like what I've first tried to sketch for this challenge :)
I've since abandoned the concept, instead trying to make a portrait-type piece :P

Will show WIP tomorrow (currently too unfinished to showcase)
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Quote greenee22 Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 11:26am
Originally posted by Mrmo Tarius

Haha greenee22, that looks exactly like what I've first tried to sketch for this challenge :)
I've since abandoned the concept, instead trying to make a portrait-type piece :P

Will show WIP tomorrow (currently too unfinished to showcase)


.. lol i first wanted to do a portrait =P 
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Quote maganegorap Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 2:33pm


Mario with fireball.Caricature!!!
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Quote GreyScale Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 3:00pm
So I'm pretty new to pixel art (having only done maybe two things) and all, and am most comfortable working on canvases thousands of pixels tall and wide. I figured that I would like to try this challenge for multiple reasons: to practice pixel art, to work on more dramatic lighting, and simply because it sounds fun.

While it's only a REALLY ROUGH oekaki (or whatever the term is) at the moment, I'm wondering if something like this is fine?



I was considering attempting to use the pallet in a previous challenge for practice restricting colors, and because I remember some really dramatic and cool-looking pieces when I was poking around.

Any advice/help?
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 3:09pm
there are some pretty liberal interpretations of 'candle' here so far
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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 3:17pm
No idea what you mean, cure. I often use sticks of dynamite to give my living room some nice, romantic atmosphere. It doesn't last very long, but for a few seconds, it looks great.
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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 3:58pm
CELS - XD
 
I have a really ambitious idea to try a dusty magical items store room with old mirrors so I can light a larger area.  It's technically still a single candle.
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Quote jeremy Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by Spherical Ice

Could it just be a candle? Or does it have to be a scene with little light (from the candle)?


since the challenge is literally to pixel a scene lit by a candle: yes.
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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 05 September 2011 at 11:55pm
Hm, this is odd. I would have thought Tarius would be finished by now :)

Here's my WIP. Just posting a very early version, in case I've made some critical errors already. If I have, please be so kind as to point them out.


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Quote Mrmo Tarius Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 12:43am
Here's that wip I said I'll be showing :)





...oops no, wait, that's the initial sketch :D

Here's what I've done so far:



That candle is like, BRIGHT :P
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Quote greenee22 Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 12:59am
nice, mrmo, you're brilliant!

here's another wip:


posting these is keeping me motivated =)
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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 1:34am
Mrmo... T_T
 
My wip (Galaga candlestick ftw):
 
 
I ditched the magic based room for a retro gaming artifact room, though I like the idea of coming back later and replacing the items with similar magic stuff.


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Quote Mrmo Tarius Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 1:55am
Chibiwing, keep on it. I like it because you've actually used contrast here :D

Here's some modified, creepy copypasta:


I'm trying not to use any references (though I have seen quite a few skulls in my time), thus the face&skull anatomy probably sucks. But who cares! :D

*edit* added moustache because everyone should wear one.

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Quote baah Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 2:06am
Impressive work by you all...
I especially like CELS' scene with the hooded figure, and Mrmo's texturing is brilliant, as usual!

I updated the candle but maybe you'll be angry at me: i used PoV raytracer to make a cylinder, used a homebrew software to make 1x2 and 2x1 ordered dithering (H & V lines) then modified the result by hand. Is this way of doing accepted?


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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 2:08am
Halleluja! Thank you for the feedback.  <3
 
Love that palette, hate that nose.
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Quote Mrmo Tarius Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 3:00am
I thought this would be interesting to see:

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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 3:11am
Awesome... ;_;
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Quote a3um Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 7:34am
Temple of Wax. Chamber of the Last Candle. WIP:

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Quote ThePixelKnight Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 9:59am
Some great WIPs here, I see Mrmo Tarius is showing off as usual lol. ;)
Anyway here's my wip still in it's early stages but I'm getting there. :) Is a scene were a man is looking through a magnifying glass at a tiny man.



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Quote Felix20 Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 9:59am
My WIP, loosely based off the ending of the book City of Ember.
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Quote Alex Pang Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 1:49pm
@Mrmo Tarius his right shoulder looks to flat, otherwise good work :)
Btw, do you want to do a collab with me? =P

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Quote GreyScale Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 2:56pm
So...as far as colors go, which do you guys think looks better?





I'm thinking the higher contrast and saturation of the first, but maybe a bit more orange-y? I'm new at this. *bad with color choices*
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Quote fawful Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 3:12pm
make it brighter methinks. bring in more saturated oranges

however i have absolutely no idea how colour works
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Quote Sublyme Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 3:44pm
I think i'll do a spellbook lit by a candle, if i have the time that is
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Quote PureAwesomeness Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 9:10pm
I told myself I wouldn't do another one for this week, but I just couldn't help it. :)

Here's my very, very early WIP. The entire left side is unfinished, but I'm sure you can understand it. This would have been animated if I had the time, with stuff coming from both sides. Maybe after...

Oh, and you didn't specify that it had to be a normal candle, so there you go. (Don't go stealing my idea! I mean it! :) )

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Quote wuhu Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2011 at 10:27pm
Here's my WIP, hope it fits into the challenge theme.



Going all Disney on this one.


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Quote Mrmo Tarius Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 3:10am
Updaet tiem!
*edit* final update for today, busy busy busy


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Quote ThePixelKnight Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 4:07am
Here's an update, I've now done the candle, table top and the tiny man, which I'm fairly happy with but needs a bit more work.

@ wuhu Looks great can't wait to see it finished. :)
@ Mrmo Tarius Just when I thought it couldn't get any better... Great work. :)




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Quote Crazy_Leen Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 5:44am
Holy cheesecake are you guys insane O_______O?!
*feels like a 2 year old child with her work right now*
Even your WIPs are looking better then my stuff X'D
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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 6:56am
My latest WIP. Not huge changes, but there you go.



PixelKnight: I really like the concept. Very fairy tale-like. And that table is gorgeous.
Wuhu: Disney style ftw. Cool idea and nice facial expressions. However, the two closest candles seem to have slightly assymmetrical faces. Is that on purpose?
a3um: Great idea. Looking forward to seeing the temple develop.
Greenee22: Looks good, but I hope you're going to work more on getting more dramatic lighting. Specifically, the front of the robe will be a lot brighter than the rest, I assume.
Chibiwing: Very nice colors and improved contrast :)

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Quote greenee22 Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 6:56am
Originally posted by Crazy_Leen

Holy cheesecake are you guys insane O_______O?!
*feels like a 2 year old child with her work right now*
Even your WIPs are looking better then my stuff X'D


welcome to the internet =P
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Quote ThePixelKnight Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 11:03am
Another update, I've got rid of the magnifying glass and given the big chap some specs which I think looks better. :)

Oh yeah I increased the colour saturation a bit as well.
@ CELS Thanks! :D the wood texture turned out better than expected. :) Yours is looking good too, I can see some arch like shapes in the background, will they be arches or something else?




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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 12:53pm
Aww, I was looking forward to seeing how you'd solve the problem of the magnifying glass. Seems like it would have been fun to pixel, as it warps everything you see through it.

And thanks. Yeah, those will probably be arches. I guess the character is in some kind of dungeon. The perspective was all wrong, I just put something up quickly.



Some further changes. I'm especially interested in feedback regarding the face. It's my first time pixelling a face at this scale.
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Quote Lathien Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 2:33pm
It's looking really good CELS, but I'd say you have too much shadow on the side of the nose closest to the lamp. You need to brighten up the bridge of the nose and blend the sides more so that they're not just straight lines. Also, you have a strange line on the lighter side of the face that I assume is a shadow of a cheekbone. This shouldn't be a thick line and shouldnt be so defined with that much light shining on the face.
But it's looking really good and I can't wait to see it finished.
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Quote wuhu Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 8:13pm

@PixelKnight : Thx man, a bit lost on what to do with the floor though, was thinking of attempting your wood effect coz it looks great
@CELS : Thx man, the two candles in front are supposed to have their heads turned a little to the side. Yours is turning out great


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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 8:25pm
Update:
 
Are there any obvious errors in shadow that I'm missing?  The top half of the lock isn't done, by the way.  And the inside of the lid is going to be mostly blocked by what I put into the chest.
 
Wuhu - The short candle's face looks like the annoying orange.  It looks pretty choppy and I don't like that palette with the piece.

Cels - The style makes me think of flash animations.

TPK - Love the wood texture.

Mrmo - No words for the awesomeness.

PureA - Like the swipe of flames and the descending floor shading.

Greyscale - The more saturated one. More oranges still. Liked your original a lot more.

Felix - Don't know about it, but the style is looking very rough; needs smoothing and added detail so I can see something happening without having to know ahead of time what it is.

A3um - Looks way too awesome for just scribbly wipness. Looks like it'll be great.

Greenee - Dislike the palette a lot.


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Quote wuhu Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 8:50pm
@Chibi : It looked like kung pow's tongue when i started out .
Could you elaborate on 'choppy' do you mean jagged ?

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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 9:14pm
Sloppy/choppy like the shadows are just thrown in wherever.  It's just a matter of personal taste, but I don't like the Disney feel/style either.
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Quote PureAwesomeness Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 9:42pm
Okay, really long post!

First of all, I don't think anyone noticed the shadow dragon in my piece. I'm not going to shade him in at all (since he IS a shadow creature) so should I perhaps darken him as well as making the outline transition smoother? The final piece is going to be an irregular circular shape instead of the rectangle, by the way. (Oh, and I'm not sure how I should do the girl's face. Should I just leave it, or somehow figure out a way to do a determined expression in a really small space? I mean, which would look better artistically?)

And what else do you think I should have/add/change in terms of random details?

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Also, here are my views on everyone's pieces so far!

greenee: Pretty nice so far, I like how the candle casts sort of a circular area on the ground, but honestly, it's a wizard with a candle. There are a lot of things you could add, like a background, something to make it more exciting.

baah: Ahahaha that's awesome! Not really a candle, but if you can finish it and shade it properly, it'll look wonderful!

maganegorap: Looks a little rough, but then again, it's only your first draft. Keep going!

GreyScale: I really like the idea! You should still make it so that he's obviously a candle, maybe put something large in the background along with a table, so that he appears to be the size of a candle. The first one looks better to me, but you should finish it off first so that there's the context to look at.

CELS: I like it. :) The candle just looks a little small and sort of the wrong colour to be lighting up such a huge area, though. If you put something yellow-brown under a bright white light, you'll notice that it appears to become paler instead of retaining its saturation.

Mrmo Tarius: Wow, nice! How long have you been doing this?

Chibiwing: I like it so far. The candleholder needs a little more definition and/or contrast though, it seems a little flat compared to everything.

a3um: This could definitely be one of those desolate, empty scenes with that one (maybe animated) candle flickering in the distance. Nice so far.

ThePixelKnight: Love the wood texture. Gotta see this finished.

Felix: I can't really tell what that is... Is it a rock, or a cave, or Stonehenge?

wuhu: Cute picture. You should dither the ground instead, and maybe tone down the brightness of the candlelight.
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Quote GreyScale Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 10:09pm
Thank you both for the feedback! I did indeed go with the saturated one, and had already been planning to work in a lot more oranges through the flame and the light it casts.

Sadly, he's not actually a candle, though that would be cool. *contemplates changing around the piece* >w> His hair was intended to emulate flame, though. The first piece is by no means any form of pixel art. I worked it with a canvas size probably twice that size and shrank it down so I could have my sketch done at a size I am more comfortable drawing.

The actual concept is that he is lifting the flame away from the actual candle via magic. =n=;; Obviously I'm going to need to work to make that more obvious. For instance, here is my current progress (obviously the candle and the shading on the hands are just roughed in at the moment to see how the shadows should block in. I haven't gotten to the hair yet.



What with how I'm restricting my pallete, shading the hands so that they still are visible against the rest will prove quite the challenge. xD

PA: Wow. There IS a shadow dragon there! o_o I totally missed that until you pointed it out, so you might want to up the contrast just a tad. It's a really cool idea, though. ^ ^ As for the face, it's all up to what you think you can accomplish. An expression could add a lot to the piece, but on the other hand could be a detriment if poorly executed. In the end, it's your call. ^ ^

And to ALL of you: OMG. You are so much more knowledgable in the ways of the pixel than I. I'm sure they'll all turn out beautifully.

At the moment, the one that stands out to me most is obviously Mrmo Tarius'. I mean seriously. o_______o How fast do you work? And such pretty colors and wonderful shading and-

But honestly, to all of you, just wow. *-*
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Quote Chibiwing Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2011 at 10:12pm
I'm not sure I have the skill to alter the Galaga candleholder much more... ^_^'  I noticed the dragon in the background.  You won't be able to make it round because transparency isn't allowed for this challenge.

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Quote Mrmo Tarius Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 2:14am
I'd say I've been working on that scene for 5 or 6 hours now. The left character is a modified copypasteflip of the right one, tho. That saved me time! :)

@Chibiwing, I have made some edits to your piece, hope you don't mind.



Quick list of the edits:
-the shadow under the candlestick: a bit more accurate regarding the lightsource and shape of the thing (@wuhu, you might want to check the shadow under your candle-guy, too)
-Galaga ship: specular highlights, moar contrast etc
-table top: ultraquick specular stuff :D
-chest face: some AA. also, stuff.

@CELS: you might want to consider doing some AA and adding some pattern dihter to the robes.

@PureAwesomeness, you might want to consider modifying the color of the candle lighting. Right now, your bright orange flame seems to produce a pure white light.

@GreyScale and @TPK: I need to see your works finished! :D

@a3um: MOAR WIPS PLZ
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Quote CELS Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2011 at 2:36am
Made slight changes everywhere.



Can someone please tell me how to improve the hands? I can tell that they're not good enough, but not sure how to fix them. Also not sure how to improve the lighting on the face.

@Lathien: That's exactly the kind of feedback I was hoping for, so thanks a lot for that. I've tried to address some of the issues in the latest version.
@Wuhu: I know they're turning to the side, silly. It's possible to tell whether or not a face is symmetrical, even if you're viewing at an angle. For example, the candle in the bottom right seems to have his entire mouth to the left of his nose. His mouth isn't wrapping around his candle-head, as you have done with his eyes.
@Chibiwing: Looking good, but I think it looks a bit flat right now. I think the table should be somewhat brighter at the center than at the edges (except for the parts covered in shadow). Similarly, the closest edge of the chest should be brighter than the distant surfaces.
@PureAwesomeness: I saw the dragon when you posted it, but I refrained from commenting because cure commented elsewhere that the challenge was to make something with a candle, not torches, fireballs or sticks of dynamite. And at the risk of sounding defensive, if my candle is too bright, you should take a look at your own nuclear-powered candle!  In my opinion, the whole idea of this challenge is to work with a single, weak light source. Saying "hey, this is a magic candle shooting a five foot flame" seems to go against the spirit of the challenge.
With that said, I've tried follow your advice to tone down the brightness of my own candle, and will continue to do so. I did experiment with decreasing the saturation on the robe, as you recommended. Let me know what you think.
@Tarius: Thanks. I'll definitely be using more AA, and I've already tried to use some on the hood. I'm not very good at dithering, but perhaps I'll try using small amounts.


Edited by CELS - 08 September 2011 at 3:50am
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