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CHALLENGE: Selective OutliningUsing only 15 colors of your choice on a 150x150 canvas make an item on a transparent background which focuses on the SelOut (Selective Outlining) technique.The pixel itself may be a figure, object or anything at all. While overall idea and general pixel prowess is of some importance in getting votes. The SelOut is what matters this week. Rules:
CHALLENGE RULES
EDIT: Rule adjustment/refinements-jal 10-16 CHALLENGE JUDGING
CHALLENGE PRIZES/GOODIES
CHALLENGE VOTINGVote now for your favorite pixelart in this week's challenge!CHALLENGE AWARDSThe Selective Outlining pixel art challenge is complete and we have three new champions. This week's challenge awards go to the following pieces:Thanks so much to all who took the time to vote and participate in the challenge! ![]() Edited by jalonso - 16 October 2007 at 9:47am |
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PJB21
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hey can anyone quide me to a good explanation of selout, because i dotn know what it is >_<
i may enter if i know whats happening, heh.
PJB21
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tuaarita
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i wasnt able to find the Links-section in www.spriteart.com(site didnt load correctly oslt), but i found this http://pixel-zone.rpgdx.net/shtml/tut-selout.shtml
Edited by Leroy - 15 October 2007 at 2:31am |
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I'm running in the desert,
running in to the sun, running out of blood and I'm going numb. |
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greenraven
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St0ven's tuts were pretty awesome. But sadly Spriteart went down some time during the summer.
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tuaarita
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i found this just now http://www.spriteart.com/tutorials/ couldnt find the selout tutorial(?)
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I'm running in the desert,
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jalonso
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Doomcreator0
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Im afraid I'm still not sure what Sel Outline means. Is it basicaly just like a show of wips? |
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PJB21
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correct me if im wrong, but is it basicly shading your linework as well?
(eg, light parts of the image have the corisponding linework lighter, while dark areas of shadow have a darker line)
thats what i got after a flick through the links anyway, feel free to correct me if im wrong.
PJB21
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jalonso
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You are correct PJB21. Its not quite that simple and good selout is a true skill worth learning. The most exaggerated examples are seem in Pokemon Gameboy game. They rely heavily on 'bad' selout.
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pixelblink
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Selout means "Selective Outling" meaning that it is not a simple black outline nor is it use of aa.
The best example of this is a great tutorial by Derek Yu If you go through his complete tutorial before just jumping to the Selout bit, you'll understand it alot better. Hope that helps everyone |
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eghost
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Quit nit-picky question...Do we have to have our piece touch all four sides of the 150x150? Or just be large enough to require that kind of canvas?
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PJB21
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i belive its the latter, since most pixel art has a 'bleed' area around it, and making a piece with a square outline (or rather square dimentions) would only add to the complcations and would typicly mean sqewing the image.
however i didnt make the comp, so i suggest waiting for a more experianced opinion.
PJB21
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Hapiel
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Animations allowed?
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jalonso
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Animations are best kept out of it, me thinks : /
Yes that's a max size of 150x150 Rules edited, thx guys. Edited by jalonso - 16 October 2007 at 9:48am |
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PJB21
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hopefuly ill be able to get soemthing done (time permiting)
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Doomcreator0
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Thanks for that pixelblink. That cleared things up a lot. I'll get to work on this.
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Shadow-gamer
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I have a question.
Would a submission be allowed to take up one full side and half of two others? Like, say, a mountain? |
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PJB21
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the max size is 150 pixels * 150 pixels, it can be smaller, but not bigger.
so a sprite of medium size, or an object maybe, something like that. of corse you could do a mountain, but remember it must have a transparent background, and as such should be a free standing entity.
PJB21
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Shadow-gamer
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Originally posted by PJB21 Of course the image is still 150*150 I wasn't changing it.
the max size is 150 pixels * 150 pixels, it can be smaller, but not bigger. so a sprite of medium size, or an object maybe, something like that. of corse you could do a mountain, but remember it must have a transparent background, and as such should be a free standing entity.
PJB21 I wanted to know if something that takes up 3/4 sides (leaving only the top of the landscape outlined) would be allowed. |
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Metaru
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looks like no one was interested in this one. or everyone is working on the PixelWeen
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I ate leel's babies
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PJB21
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it doeasnt seam exesivly popular, however i do have some spare time now so hopefuly ill be able to submit something.
PJB21
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jalonso
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Better chances for color ribbons
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eghost
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I'm currently working on an entry for this one myself...Just figured I'd post the WIP for it on the WIP board...
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MashPotato
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I've started on an entry, if only just to finally determine what selout actually is
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Metaru
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there was decision: the pixelween or the regular comps, and i decided the second.
![]() SV-000, Based on the Concept drawings found the PSX Version of Metal Slug ( ref ) (animated, of course.) Edited by Metaru - 20 October 2007 at 12:12pm |
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MashPotato
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WIP; it's Ulala from Space Channel 5
![]() ...what I'm doing here IS selout, right? ![]() ![]() |
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Metaru
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I love that game. i'll say yes, it is selout in my opinion.
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MashPotato
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Further along, only some tweaking left
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greenraven
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That is looking mighty fine.
![]() Throw in Micheal Jackson if you can. (He's in the game too.) ![]() |
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jalonso
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Mash I just can't express what a cool pixel that is. You make me feel inadequate.
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Metaru
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I ate leel's babies
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MashPotato
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Elk
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wow lots of entries this time =)
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sedgemonkey
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Yeah, I'm hoping the lack of entries is because all of you suckas are working on your Pixelween entries.
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MashPotato
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I think part of the reason for the lack of entries (so far, that is--there's still some time
![]() On a different note, there are currently some entries that aren't following the transparency rules. Hurry, there's still time to fix it! ![]() |
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BlackDragon
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"A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie
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Di0xygen
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Originally posted by BlackDragon ![]() THERE's almost no selout in this , blackdragon. Selective outlining means not having a black outline everywhere, but having a colored outline that changes depending on the color and light, its quite hard to selout something that has a black suit. And those red gloves selout is quite shy tbh. |
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BlackDragon
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Oh, OK. Just checking, and good point. I just couldn't understand the concept O_o I always thought it meant making the outline smooter by breaking the outline a bit in places.
Edited by BlackDragon - 21 October 2007 at 4:15pm |
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"A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie
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Metaru
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Originally posted by MashPotato
On a different note, there are currently some entries that aren't following the transparency rules. Hurry, there's still time to fix it! ![]() Fixed u,u
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Shadow-gamer
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May I kindly ask why my entry failed? It followed all the rules. You even let some entries through that ignored the rules...
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greenraven
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Post a pic of your entry. It's no longer visible now that it's been taken down.
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Shadow-gamer
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Originally posted by greenraven I would if I could. But I'm not on my comp. Plus it's almost 10:00.
Post a pic of your entry. It's no longer visible now that it's been taken down. |
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eghost
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I was actually working on an entry for this and ended up getting a dissertation on the principles and evils of selout...So, while I won't have a piece ready in time for this I do think I learned a few things, and I think the piece will end up better...
Here's the thread ( Only for those really interested in advanced technique theory): http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=5253.0
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greenraven
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Oh noes, it got rejected. Now I'm going to have to go and throw a hissy fit. Nah, just kidding.
![]() Yeah, I was afraid I didn't quite get what a SelOut was. It's too late to get it back into the challenge, but at least I can figure out where I went wrong. "I have not failed, I just found 10,000 ways that didn't work." ~ Thomas Edison ![]() Lil help on how this could be soldout? ![]() |
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Skull
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lol-soldout.
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Noburo
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Before I went and submitted this I wanted to make sure this IS infact a proper use of selout.
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greenraven
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Contest ended already. You can still submit it, just not for the challenge.
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Noburo
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Well dang... :(
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