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Eggy (Level 4 Deputy) @ 8/17/2017 12:21

Pixelart was... uh... introduced by old video game consoles!

Hahahaha... I've got nothing.

Either way, checking back on the chatbox again... How's everyone doing?

Curth (Level 4 Lieutenant) @ 8/17/2017 10:59

Pixelart was a mistake?

skittle (Level 9 Nidan) @ 8/17/2017 06:05

Pixelart was a horrible idea.

king_bobston (Level 10 Capo) @ 8/14/2017 02:07

PJ was the paralympics for artists all along :^o!

cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/13/2017 21:05

I was only aware of Israel Abramov's study, but even reading that again I see what you're saying about the X chromosomes and color receptors. Pretty convincing, I guess I'm just salty because I have man eyes. Still a pretty good trade off for not having to deal with menstruation and menopause, but I'd prefer to have my cake and eat it too.

So I now see it's the pixel patriarchy that's keeping color counts limited, it's a handicap for dudes so we can stay in the game. You can see 1000 shades of green? Tough luck miss, you only get two shades of green!

Taertage (Level 1 Gangster) @ 8/13/2017 17:58


True, but should I get a woman to do "by eye" calibration on my monitor?


I suppose the question is whether the differences in color perception are large enough to make a significant difference in color choice/usage or "by eye" calibration. Color perception is part cultural, and women are typically more color conscious. But even assuming that the man and women are matched on a cultural/mental level (say, equal artists), the woman still has a genetic advantage in the possibility of four photopigment genotypes (because of XX). Also, which 'the one study'?

Honestly, I'm just salty for not having full tetrachromatic vision, haha.

AirStyle (Level 5 Detective) @ 8/13/2017 15:14

Yeah, I kind of did. I was little worried that I might have stepped on toes. It's a little easy for me to do without noticing.

surt (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/13/2017 12:46

They should still be calibrating to match the same physical reality though.

cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/13/2017 11:43

I doubt those subtle differences have any effect. Personally I'd love to see more data than the one study before accepting the differences between men and women's perception of color is really that significant, especially if we're talking about trained artists.

Taertage (Level 1 Gangster) @ 8/13/2017 10:06

Come to think of it, would men and women calibrate their monitor differently, considering they see colors differently?

king_bobston (Level 10 Capo) @ 8/13/2017 08:13

If most monitors are to blue shifted the question arises if it's better to also have a blue-shifted monitor to experience your art as close as possible to how most people would see it or if it's better to have it display them as true as possible instead

I think there was nothing offensive about your question, in case you deleted it because of that.

AirStyle (Level 5 Detective) @ 8/12/2017 20:47

Redshrike (Level 8 Marshal) @ 8/12/2017 20:31

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for putting your gallery back up!  I have learned a lot from it over the years and I still really like to go back and reference it so I was sad to see it was down.

Goodlyay (Level 5 Detective) @ 8/12/2017 16:36

Yea your colors on your pieces are fine m8.

If they were really that bad people would have said something before.

surt (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/12/2017 10:41

You've got awesome colours. Because the eye/brain adapts to the environment/context you still percieve the correct colours (more or less) even if you don't physically see them, so you can still manage to use close to the correct colours.

DieMango (Level 5 Soldier) @ 8/12/2017 09:18

Aww man... a tool to fix colors? Salvation has finally come.

skittle (Level 9 Nidan) @ 8/12/2017 07:45

Yea I can imagine that being what it is. Still tho, I thought my colours were pretty okay for some of my pieces, turns out this whole time they  were ass ;(

greenraven (Level 1 Gangster) @ 8/12/2017 06:40

Yup. Unless Jay Alonso has lied again. XD

surt (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/11/2017 22:06

Your eyes/brain are probably just adapted to the old incorrect colours. When I first used a proper screen calibrator the results looked disgustingly yellow at first but soon normalized and switching back to uncalibrated looked even more horrible. Most displays seem to have overstrong blue by default.

skittle (Level 9 Nidan) @ 8/11/2017 21:04

this one http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test  

Everything is a bit yellow but apparently it's more accurate than my previous screen. Idk Im very confused

Jinn (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/11/2017 20:36

So that sexy neck and arm are actually Jal's? :O

greenraven (Level 1 Gangster) @ 8/11/2017 19:44


It's literally his avi tattooed on his arm.

Also guyses stop making such a fuss.

Jinn (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/11/2017 19:13

And which one it is?

skittle (Level 9 Nidan) @ 8/11/2017 16:11

Does anyone know that site where you can test to see if the colours on your screen are proper?

edit nvm got it

cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/10/2017 19:23

Will artwork created in the next three days be eligible for the current Romero challenge?

Mandrill (Level 8 Partner) @ 8/10/2017 07:59

All on Monday. :)

eishiya (Level 5 Detective) @ 8/10/2017 06:30

@neota: I am aware of the feature, but I don't think it can do what I need. It can do what yrizoud's script does xP
Or rather, I think it can do what I need, but it would be nearly as much hassle as doing it manually in a lot of cases because I'd need to place a bunch of hill-starter tiles manually, which is still more than I'm willing to put up with. It'd be faster to write a custom tool than to make even one map, even with autotiling. All because I want my stupid weird tiny hills :'D Autotiling would be all I need if it was just slopes connecting filled tiles.

neota (Level 7 Ichikyu) @ 8/9/2017 21:19

Oh, given what you have described, then you do want Tiled's automapping.

See, it has two ways of 'fixing/adjusting' tiles automatically. In one (Terrain tool), you just provide tileset(s) in a fixed arrangement.  In other one, you make 'rulesets' that are basically inputlayout:outputlayout mappings (which can contain 'don't care' tiles so that the substitution only pays attention to tiles you care about.

It has a range of features, but one important one is the ability to output to another layer or even multiple layers, rather than overwriting content in the 'sketch/basis' layer you are starting from.




Jinn (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/9/2017 15:20

Same for the results of Good Bye Old Friend?

yrizoud (Level 6 SWAT) @ 8/9/2017 10:42

I digged up the script on my Windows 98 machine :) Posted here. It's for Mappy tile editor, whose homepage seems to be broken now.

Apparently the program allows a script to be linked to a mouse button of your choice, so you could actually set it up to "draw" the borders you want to smoothe, and it would automatically pick the required tile. But you still need to teach it how :) (set up the coirrect tile numbers) And you'll never get 2x1 or 1x2 slopes as there's ambiguity.

Eggy (Level 4 Deputy) @ 8/9/2017 08:54

Aww nuts, I really wanted to see this week's challenge but I guess the downtime ruined it 

But I can certainly survive til the upcoming Monday!

Oh yeah, will there be some sort of announcement explaining what happened?

pyrometal (Level 8 Guerrilla) @ 8/9/2017 07:06

Not to sure what happened to the server/site, but whatever it was we got Sedge to fix it for us.

Glad to see things are back in order (more or less)

Paddy (Level 1 Gangster) @ 8/9/2017 06:47

nah it's probably because I haven't done my by monthly gallery deletion duh

Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 8/9/2017 06:38

I'm sorry guys.. I've known for a long time that PJ servers go down if I don't log in at least once every 2 weeks, I kinda forgot this time :s

Mandrill (Level 8 Partner) @ 8/9/2017 03:10

Back online! Challenges will continue next monday.

DieMango (Level 5 Soldier) @ 8/9/2017 00:59

Gosh...2 days without Pixeljoint. I wonder what happened...

Theoden (Level 6 SWAT) @ 8/9/2017 00:28

PJ got me worried for a second there.

yrizoud (Level 6 SWAT) @ 8/9/2017 00:11

Some time ago I made a script for Tiled, for a Warcraft-2-like tileset. When drawing the map, I would use a special tile (always the same) for every edge and corner, and each time I run the the script it would seek those magic tiles and replace them by the logical tile, according to the what I defined in my tileset : transition between sand and grass, sand and water, etc.

This is probably longer than what you'd like, but it solved nicely the question of "which tile you are drawing yourself, and which ones should be computed/guessed"

EdJr (Level 8 Shodan) @ 8/8/2017 23:36


Curth (Level 4 Lieutenant) @ 8/8/2017 23:20

We live!

Eggy (Level 4 Deputy) @ 8/8/2017 23:04

Great to see it's back online! My only gripe is that its offline status might've botched this week's challenge :'D

bardiel_eva (Level 1 Rookie) @ 8/8/2017 22:29


Timepool (Level 1 Rookie) @ 8/8/2017 22:14

Yea, I was worried for a bit there too, glad to see it back up.

skittle (Level 9 Nidan) @ 8/8/2017 21:19

Thought pj was dead for good 

that's an awfully confusing picture aha

BlondeAnt (Level 3 Hatchikyu) @ 8/7/2017 04:15

The hunt is on. Also, why y'all think Jorge Alonso is not a real name?

greenraven (Level 1 Gangster) @ 8/6/2017 23:38

Tank da lawd! \o/

Also everyone there's an easy way to find him even if he gave a fake name.

Just look for a dude with a scarab tattoo on his right arm, I can't imagine there'd be too many of those.

Actually... stalker mode engage... >_>

5 minutes later:

Everyone get your finest burlap sack, bottle of choloroform and whatever torture tools you'll require to dig information out of a man. Just found out jal was featured and interviewed in this magazine. Surely the journalist knows his real name!

Adarias (Level 11 Special Agent) @ 8/6/2017 22:17

Does PJ have any policies around explicit content?  I always assumed anything goes as long as it meets the "quality" rule.

The nsfw warning on previews was always, as I understood, an optional (if almost universal) courtesy.

Edit: wow, "tasteful nudity" with warnings is apparently an official rule.  I wonder how many times I've ignored those.

anyway back to the shadows.

Curth (Level 4 Lieutenant) @ 8/6/2017 16:55

That is definitely the spiciest thing Ive seen on PJ.

Fusionnist (Level 9 Federal Agent) @ 8/6/2017 15:48


We're getting there

cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 8/6/2017 11:56

Assuming his given name really is Jorge Alonso, that his family did post an obit somewhere, and that you can determine which of the ten thousand Jorge Alonsos in Florida is our guy.

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