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greenraven (Level 1 Gangster) @ 12/14/2017 21:22

Rome started burning the moment we elected a lobotomy patient as president.


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matriax (Level 5 Sniper) @ 12/14/2017 18:17

Thanks @Hapiel !

Here images without dithering, due uses my 128 color palette and gives a good quality without them:

https://cartrdge.com/davitmasia/comparision-using-my-new-128-color-palette

About applications for example, people doing 3D render stuff that wants to change to some pixel style for their game.


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MrHai (Level 2 Flatfoot) @ 12/14/2017 13:23

@greenraven:

Rome is burning.

Given americas position as the foremost/only superpower in the world for more than a generation - its internet infrastructure is absurd.


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Daruda (Level 4 Button Man) @ 12/14/2017 12:01

@DB Thank you a lot DB, thse are amazing as always! And the landscape script, I do that on Uniy for fast maps lol


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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/14/2017 11:35

Interesting stuff Matriax!

What do images without dithering look like?

What do you think are the applications of this software? Are there situations where it is easier to draw in hd and convert to pixel, or where you might have a bunch of hd stuff in your posession which needs to be converted?


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greenraven (Level 1 Gangster) @ 12/14/2017 11:24

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42355666

I hope Ajit Pai chokes on a bag of dicks!!!

For you international folks who don't know, our internet providers are already strangling us for every last penny as it is. Now there's not much that can stand in their way to bleed us dry altogether.


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DawnBringer (Level 10 Maniac) @ 12/14/2017 11:17

The TOOLBOX v1.4 for GrafX2 has been released! Forum article. :)


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matriax (Level 5 Sniper) @ 12/14/2017 01:15

Hi, Somebody said Pixatool? developer here! :P ,

This are the Best nine exported images using PixaTool at the moment:
https://cartrdge.com/davitmasia/bestnine-of-pixatool-2017

1. Painted/Grass/Matriax128c(My palette)
2. 2 Photos/Faces/16-32c custom palette
3. Painted/Bricks/Matriax128c
4. Painted/Face/16c custom palette
5. Photo/Potrait/256c palette
6. Painted/Landscape/AAP-64 color palette
7. Painted/Wood/8c custom palette
8. 3D Render/Potrait/256c palette
9. Painted/Water/8c custom palette

I'm focused mainly bricked-style due i'm doing a 3D dungeon game prototype, so had more time looking the best preset, here a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kJAlDvtFRk

Btw, as you can see works great too with faces, water, wood, grass(Personally best conversion) and if they are photos or 3D render, just i need to do more examples of the others, specially the 3D render ones that are really the ones that will work best due have the lines/forms/gradients better defined than painted ones ;) .


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Elk (Level 5 Assistant Manager) @ 12/13/2017 22:45

cuddling is really great

aside from pizza


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StoneStephenT (Level 8 Guerrilla) @ 12/13/2017 08:09

@Dawnbringer: I would if I had an actual palette in development. I am mainly just looking over existing palettes, examining sprites and other pixel pieces for their color choices, and screwing around with color ramps and color changes on things like videogame screenshots to see what I like and don't like.

I have noticed, however that I tend to shy away from using full- or high-saturation colors until the darker sides of a given color ramp. I also tend to make ramps where brighter colors have less saturation and darker colors have more saturation, which makes it hard to use a full-saturation color (e.g., red) as a "midpoint" on a ramp.

I really, really need more practice with colors. Among other things.


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DawnBringer (Level 10 Maniac) @ 12/13/2017 07:59

@Stone: You can always start by taking a look at the PJ Color-thread 

Why not start a dev thread for your palette?


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StoneStephenT (Level 8 Guerrilla) @ 12/13/2017 03:12

Hi. Haven't been here in a while.

I am slowly dipping my toes back into pixel art by messing around with color palettes. But I have a question: Assuming I want to make a “unified” color palette for use on multiple works/sprites/etc., how would I go about doing that? That is to say, how do y'all figure out things like what specific shade of a color (e.g., green) to use in a given palette?


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Theoden (Level 6 SWAT) @ 12/12/2017 23:50

Yes, I agree. Generally speaking, I find pixatool to be pretty good. I have been following it since its first test versions and it has come a long way now. Of course it has its strenghts and weaknesses depending on the target image's properties but some of the conversions look very impressive. At worst case I think it can be a great visual guide and reference for converting a texture or a scene to pixel art.


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Redshrike (Level 8 Marshal) @ 12/12/2017 20:43

It seems to work best on things that are already painted in a compatible style--the bricks work great, but the others examples don't look quite as impressive.  Still, I think it could be a really useful tool.


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Fleja2003 (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/12/2017 10:28

That's a pretty cool tool! I like it 

though like Hapiel do I think that if tools are going to be making pixel art for us, then we either have to step up our game or were gonna be obselete :/
 


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Fleja2003 (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/12/2017 10:26

Thank you PixelDust - I think what  you've said is so true 
Feeling depressed but not drawing things that mirror my own expression
Doing the same thing over and over again

Maybe that is why Im not havign fun as skittle said -
all that one needs is to refind that passion to rekindle the torch
Btw I liked you weird comparision haha
You have a point, Im going to try something different and take the advice of all you guys. Im really thankful and even still it feels surreal that any of you incredible people even took the time out to respond to me

Thank all of you guys - cant express how much it truly means in words.


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Fleja2003 (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/12/2017 10:20

Thanks Skittle!
I cant say what Ive been doing is doodles or starving myself from learninh, I like learning a lot of things about pixelart and new things you can try [like when I was asking you how you draw and stuff I wanted to try doing it that way etc]
I see what yous saying though, and youre right - I am looking for something more. I draw with a mouse currently but if money allows Id liek a drawing tablet to do other mediums
I can draw on paper more often as well vs just always doign pixelart.
Thank you for sharing your experiences as well, and if I'm around then Ill be there to tell you what youve just told me c:
 


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Fleja2003 (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/12/2017 09:59

Thank you Skurra
"And... don't stop. As long as you have something that keeps you going I think it's better to cope up, really."
I guess I should keep going then, but I'm going to draw how I feel or what I want to vs doing long things I might lose interest in.
Really sorry to here about you experiences in college.Its almost a perfect mirror of how I was trying to express how I was feeling. It sucks a lot and I hope your feeling better now.
 


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Fleja2003 (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/12/2017 09:55

Thank you JerryPie 
I didnt know you were a soldier - congrats dude! I think youre right - I should treat it like a hobby not a job. Draw as an outlet
Thank you again!
 


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neota (Level 7 Ichikyu) @ 12/12/2017 04:01

Looking at all the sliders, seems like pretty much the utility I wanted to make for indexization but CBA.

There are a few flaws with pixel distribution visible on the rim of the hat (left side). I'm not sure what would fix them -- something like Floyd-Steinberg dithering, except distributing fragments of *clusters*?

Bilateral smoothing might be a good option to add (more CPU intensive, but abstracts/unifies clusters better than generic blur).


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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/12/2017 03:33

Haha, my first reaction to that twitter image was "no, that can't be true", thinking that the high res was derrived from the original pixel art! I guess that shows how good the pixel art is ;). Cool tool! That means we artists need to work harder to proove we're in control of our pixels ;)


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Theoden (Level 6 SWAT) @ 12/12/2017 00:02

Just wanted to mention David Masia's impressive pixel art conversion tool called PixaTool for the ones who didn't hear about it.

Check it out, it's awesome.

Here is another example(twitter).


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PixelDust (Level 5 Killer Klown) @ 12/11/2017 14:15

Art as a whole is a way for people to express an idea or emotion and to make them know. The things One draw often reflect One's own mental state, when you feel down or depressed you mostly end up with a bunch of dark and gloomy artworks even when  you have a "mega ultra brilliant" idea if it does not reflect how you feel it will ultimately just feel like a chore

there comes a point in most peoples lives when the uncertainty of the future which is inevitably certain makes One start to doubt One's Self-worth which in turn leads to the mentality of Not Good Enough but that is what push people to improve and strive for greatness even though that feeling can be unbearable sometimes the gnawing drive to explore, create, discover and ultimately dream is what defines being human

there is an old saying (which might not be that old ) that states
people who have mastered a craft no longer seem to enjoy it
getting good at something requires a lot of experimentation and repetition
but after doing something long enough "Experimentation"
drift away from the equation which just leaves repetition and repetition if what fuels boredom
the things that one enjoyed might just end up feeling like Have To instead of a Want To because of the rejection of abandonment no one wants to just give up on what they spend countless hours perfecting

all that one needs is to refind that passion to rekindle the torch
that will guide you through the dark tunnel that is despair and depression this might just incur a small change or courageous big leap but that is all up to the individual
The key to weeding out boredom is to change it up a bit
washing dishes is pretty boring right, but how about trying doing it using your feet sure people might look at you weird maybe setting the number of the nearest mental institution on quick daily but who cares it something new right?
well bad examples aside

even when you can't see the light at the end of your "tunnel of despair" just remember that it is always there
there is a lot more that can be said, but nothing that hasn't already been said


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skittle (Level 9 Nidan) @ 12/11/2017 11:30

"but it seems like I've run out of goals or fun in doing this." Thats the problem. It sounds like you've starved yourself from actually learning and you've more or less just doodled up to this point -at least I'm just trying to relate, maybe that's not actually the case.

Not doing art is totally fine if you're not looking to pursue it as career, casual art is O.K. but the mindset that you have right now makes it sound like you want more, maybe? Like you said you don't have any goals, well you got to make some. Look at the bigger picture and ask if art is something you want to take seriously, not just pixelart but art as a whole. If that is the case there is so much more to learn, there's so many more goals and ways to move forward that aren't even related to a single medium (something other than pixelart bc it's lame :^) ). Maybe you can see where I'm going with this.

If pixelart or art isn't something you're looking at as a longterm solution to giving life some sort of fullfillment then don't feel bad about not stepping up to the plate to actually do art from time to time. Not doing art for a week, or a month is FINE! There's so many more outlets and things to do, they don't even need to be creative. Otherwsie, start learning and thinking about what you don't know.

Idk if your depression is linked directly to this, and maybe most of this stuff might be useless to you. I also struggle a lot with depression (inb4 it's just teen angst), most of it isn't linked to art but it ends up directly affecting it so I guess I just wish I had someone to tell me this when I eventually run myself into the ground (again) with my depression in the future.

Hope this gives you something to think about in the very least. People who do creative things who feel stagnant or depressed more than what's deemed "normal" does seem to be a pretty big stereotype so it wouldn't be surprising that a lot of people on this site can relate.


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Skurra (Level 1 Thug) @ 12/10/2017 23:41

Not really one to say much, but I grew as a pretty social outcast kid/teen and enjoyed drawings.

One day I was told I could make a living of off it! So from that point onwards I focused on improving myself to better suit the market. Had a job as an artist, joined an animation college but from that point on... boy, was it a downward spiral.

TL;DR: I became heavily depressed. Maybe it was the clash of my 'passion' against that of my peers - but my interest and will faded shortly after joining college. Maybe it was my 'time to decide what to do' coming to it's end - I don't know; for a long time I saw art as my only choice since I was such an awkward, socially inept person... and I grew out of all passion after discovering that I could function almost as normally as everyone else. I'm still struggling to find what I want in life -- but I think, for the 100th time this year, I've found it. I was also treated as a pretty dumb person, so I  was also led to think I'd fail at any other option.

Just... take care of your mental health, don't push too far, really. I've went from someone pretty "happy", determined, self-willed, self-caring and disciplined to not being able to brush my teeth everyday, sleeping 13-18 hours a day and starting to sympathize with suicide. I've always considered myself pretty resilience, so I'm impressed how deep I fell. Am falling. Still a rollercoaster to be honest, heh.

Also there's a saying that goes like "Never transform a hobby into work".

And... don't stop. As long as you have something that keeps you going I think it's better to cope up, really. I got my relative's dog to better take care of it and it made me live up a little more. I kept going with my language studies.

Also, Careful with too much instrospection.

It's more of a vent rather than a tip -- but I gues there's isn't really an answer, the best thing I could come up with was sharing my own experiences... those kind of things are insanely personal.

Oh! and with the right therapists you can get a lot of help and self-understanding! If you're able to, check one out, some sessions wouldn't hurt :)


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JerryPie (Level 11 Godfather) @ 12/10/2017 20:38

I am strongly against making art strictly for a following rather than fun.  (Although now adays the lines are somewhat blurred becuase social media is crucial for creative endeavors becoming financially successful)

In most cases you should only be creating things you truly enjoy making.  I deployed to Afghanistan 6 years ago, and every free chance I got was spent drawing on paper for my sanity.  I grew more during that deployment than I ever had as an artist, because it was for my eyes alone.  Your art is an outlet for YOU, no one else!  Treat it that way and you will be happy.  I can elaborate more but it might seem like rambling.   
 


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Fleja2003 (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/10/2017 17:12

Is there a relationship between how much you grow artisticaly and how happy you are, or how depressed you become [If that is normal].

I can only speak for myself but, when I started pixel for the first time in mid 2015. I sucked at pixel art but I had so much fun doing something I didnt understand.
Over the course of time I got better at drawing with pixels but my art still wasnt Pixel art persay.

Eventually though, I met someone who basiclaly said i drew ok but my art wasn't fitting to *pixel art*. I asked them what they meant by that and thats where my real pixel art journey began [around late 2016 ish].

I'm now better at art and have so much of a better understanding of things than I've ever had before and I am happy and grateful for that, but it seems like I've run out of goals or fun in doing this.
I've been getting super depressed easily now, and I don't find it fun when I draw anymore. My only motivation to like draw now, is because I know on another site I have followers and friends who enjoy my work,

but the process of it is just brutal - the month long projects just picking away at my patience, sanity and entertainment.
And then there's the depression. I can't even give an explanation for it but I'm just always feeling down. I try to make myself think positively and even when I do this weight is just never lifting off of me. I just always feel bad for some reason and I cant help it

If anyone has gone through similiar phases or experiencing the same thing please let me know.
 


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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/10/2017 13:24

Hahaha, wieso do you like pretending to be German? It's one of my hobbies too, btw


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PixelDust (Level 5 Killer Klown) @ 12/10/2017 11:54

O' no uhhhm I just want them for my potatoes collection
there is only 3 thing I love about life
- Pixel Art
- Unpeeled potatoes
- and pretending to be German

but mostly unpeeled potatoes


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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/10/2017 10:37

so you can peel them and share them with the poor people half way their progress?


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PixelDust (Level 5 Killer Klown) @ 12/10/2017 08:56

when I saw the challenge ended earlier than Sunday the first thing I thought was what about the people who still wanted to enter
I demand some free unpeeled potatoes


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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/10/2017 06:00

That looks epic though! :o


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DimWiddy (Level 1 Jukyu) @ 12/10/2017 05:26

Aw man, I didn't expect the challenge to end before Sunday.  Well here's what I had so far on my entry!

i.imgur.com/3F5Vs20.png


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pyrometal (Level 8 Guerrilla) @ 12/8/2017 15:43

Image result for illuminati confirmed

Illuminati confirmed


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Daruda (Level 4 Button Man) @ 12/8/2017 10:21

This is actually an illuminati complot so that certain individuals get easy badges...
No one is safe!


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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/8/2017 05:01

I some time share your worry Fusionnist, but when it takes a single challenge to get everyone back on board, it seems like we just need to 1up the quality of the challenges :). And that's a challenge which we're up to!


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Fusionnist (Level 9 Federal Agent) @ 12/7/2017 21:42

Good point


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Jinn (Level 11 Godfather) @ 12/7/2017 15:34

http://pixeljoint.com/pixels/challenge_item.asp?id=1602


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Fusionnist (Level 9 Federal Agent) @ 12/7/2017 13:39

Did this ever happen before? The challenges seemed to have declined in quality/submissions since a couple years but this is pretty alarming  or is it? Do most people here seek an active community?


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PixelDust (Level 5 Killer Klown) @ 12/6/2017 04:22

Dim' there's no need to yell we can hear you just fine XD
(if this is about what Hapiel said you're almost two days too late so the challenge got extended another week ) but maybe you are just excited who knows


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DimWiddy (Level 1 Jukyu) @ 12/6/2017 03:58

I'm making an entry!


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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/4/2017 08:23

Never mind what I said, turns out I was wrong! It's going to be another 2 week challenge it seems.


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PixelDust (Level 5 Killer Klown) @ 12/4/2017 08:05

Gecimen already made one we should be at 3 entries


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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/4/2017 07:57

That's one I've never heard of happening before :o But there are still 16 hours to finish the challenge, quick, someone  make an entry!


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PixelDust (Level 5 Killer Klown) @ 12/4/2017 07:12

Aaaahhh I see well that kinda sucks


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Mandrill (Level 8 Partner) @ 12/4/2017 06:32

"There must be a minimum of 3 submissions for the challenge to end. This isn't the case this week."


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Fleja2003 (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/4/2017 06:08

Oh no!
The weekly challenge hasn't changed!!!
 


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AirStyle (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/2/2017 08:54

Okay. Good to know. Thank you.


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cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 12/1/2017 21:51

I would just look at photos of skulls and try to draw them accurately until I got an idea of how to make a skull that isn't deformed. If you have an actual skull, do some still lifes. Ain't science, just eyeball exercises, but if you want to take notes like Leonardo don't let me stop you. Just remember that observation and note-taking can be a way to avoid practicing drawing if you let it. Same with hoarding references, etc.


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AirStyle (Level 5 Detective) @ 12/1/2017 18:21

@cure: Ok. How precise, though, were you on measuring the proportions and dimensions of each particular part of the skull? I've been using a ruler to see how wide/high each part is, and just rounding of to the nearest half-centimeter.




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