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Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 2/24/2017 16:08


this one

greenraven (Level 1 Gangster) @ 2/24/2017 11:25

Oh no... not the furry porn... whatever shall we do if all the furry porn gets stolen from dA. Crisis. 

Also what in the bleeding fuck is Wix if it's big enough to gobble up dA? Is this one of those cases of me living under a rock?

Also also... still no word from jal, I'm mildly worried for him and his grandpa age.

Irenaart (Level 3 Private Eye) @ 2/24/2017 02:35

Jalonso's birthday is in 2 days. Just to remind.

CritiqueMyWork (Level 7 Captain) @ 2/24/2017 00:15

All your pixels are belong to us

Is there any community for this low poly thing?

Daruda (Level 4 Button Man) @ 2/23/2017 18:48

Goodbye DeviantArt,
welcome ScamArt.

Mrmo Tarius (Level 10 Master Sniper) @ 2/23/2017 15:06

I kinda got really hyped for this lowpoly thing, I keep practicing and making more stuff and it's great fun O_O

cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 2/23/2017 13:40

Not enough info in this article to tell, but that certainly seems possible given dA's submission policy:

"[W]hen Artist Materials are uploaded to the DeviantArt Site(s), Artist grants to DeviantArt a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to do the following things during the Term:

b)to display, copy, reproduce, exhibit, publicly perform, broadcast, rebroadcast, transmit, retransmit, distribut...or otherwise publish any or all of the Artist Materials, including any part of them, and to include them in compilations for publication, by any and all means and media now known or not yet known or invented"

d) the right to sublicense to any other person or company any of the licensed rights in the Artist Materials, or any part of them, subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement."


But surely they realize the potential backlash this would cause and you'd need to check a box or something to make the work available for random wix users to plaster all over their pages. At least I'd hope...

Adcrusher (Level 6 Major) @ 2/23/2017 12:29

Second, Wix will open up DeviantArt’s repository of art and creative community to the Wix platform, giving Wix’s users access to that work to use in their own site building."

Wait what? So people using Wix to make their website can take art from Deviant Art and use it without consent of the artist? Is that correct or am I reading it wrong?

Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 2/23/2017 10:04

Let's offer PJ up for sale too. I'm sure there are interested buyers!

Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 2/23/2017 10:02

rskgames (Level 1 Rookie) @ 2/23/2017 08:35

Website builder Wix acquires art community DeviantArt for $36M link

Daruda (Level 4 Button Man) @ 2/23/2017 04:36

Mrmo said it. Crocotile3D.
It's another project of AlexHW.
I loved a lot his pixel art editor too.
I'd use it if it didn't require to be always online. 

CritiqueMyWork (Level 7 Captain) @ 2/23/2017 03:25

By the way, what software is used for such things?

CritiqueMyWork (Level 7 Captain) @ 2/23/2017 02:20

I like your first lowpoly character ever Tarius. The best part about this aesthetic is that it always will look great. Looking at games from the same time as zelda wind waker, you can see how the look and feel of the game is still alive, which cannot be said about other games.

Aureliano (Level 5 Assistant Manager) @ 2/22/2017 00:12

Love the cats, Crocotile is great and it reminded me of your work when I first used it

Aureliano (Level 5 Assistant Manager) @ 2/22/2017 00:11

Thanks a lot! That seemed to work!!

Hapiel (Level 11 Admiral) @ 2/21/2017 15:15

Looks really nice! I'll have to have a go now.. :o

Mrmo Tarius (Level 10 Master Sniper) @ 2/21/2017 10:24

I made my first lowpoly character ever, after several days of tinkering with AlexHW's Crocotile.

The first thing I did after making it, is making two more variants by redrawing the textures :D

I really like that application!

surt (Level 11 Godfather) @ 2/21/2017 08:21

Always ensure you let your pizza cool sufficiently before becoming physically intimate with it. Burns in certain places can be quite awkward.

ParkerBabyDiaperCompany (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 2/21/2017 06:24

cuddling with pizza

Elk (Level 4 Murderer) @ 2/21/2017 04:35

there's nothing better than cuddling and pizza

yrizoud (Level 6 SWAT) @ 2/21/2017 01:46

@Aureliano : Sorry for late reply. Try locate the gfx2.ini, on Windows it would be in folder %appdata%\Grafx2. Open it with a text editor, and delete the followin lines to reset the window settings : Default_video_mode, Default_window_size, Window_position

I have seen a case where window was auto-placed at large negative position, impossible to see or interact.

eishiya (Level 4 Deputy) @ 2/17/2017 14:17

@Adcrusher: Valve seems intent on being as hands-off as possible, which is why Greenlight was created in the first place. Their goal is to automate everything. If they cared to curate submissions, there wouldn't be a need for Greenlight or Direct at all.

As for the price, I agree $100-200 is too low, but a lot of bigger devs are suggesting prices into the thousands or tens of thousands, which prices out smaller devs who don't have the budget to make a good game and market it and pay the fee.

All in all though, marketing/promotion and the need to have money to make money will probably always remain the bane of small devs, no matter how welcoming or unwelcoming Steam is to them.

@king_bobston: I have no idea what protections Valve has in place, but that is a very valid concern. As for good/bad games though, that is sadly not an issue. Direct (or Greenlight, for that matter) has no way to filter good games from junk, and I don't feel that a high entry fee is all that effective either. As I've mentioned, it'll probably filter out joke games, but it won't keep out the trading card mills.

Zizka (Level 10 Operative) @ 2/17/2017 13:36

 What about a system similar to pixeljoint where devs submit games and Valve mods maintain a standard level of quality in games they accept. I mean I think the goal from Valve's perspective is to be more hands off, but I think this is what I'd want both as a developer and a steam user.

I don't mean to say this in a patronizing way but this is obvisouly the best answer; having staff curating the store. That's the ideal solution. Reality, however, is another matter entirely. 

I'm 100% certain Steam management has been told countless time to set some standards and have people regulate the flow of games but it goes against their objective of making profit. There's clearly no will to be involved here and let the community do it all for free to their benefit.

Steam also has monopoly which so which would they bother. Unless GOG somehow catch up with Steam but I don't see this happening ever.

Adcrusher (Level 6 Major) @ 2/17/2017 10:43

How effective was greenlight at letting in quality games? I mean the amount of garbage games on steam definitely went up, but how many bad games were they keeping out? 

If the fee is as low as 100 or 200 dollars, I don't think it will slow the flow of crap games coming in. It seems to me that if you're willing to go through all of the work of making a game and putting it on greenlight, that amount of money isn't a big enough hurdle to deter you. But if it's 1000 dollars, you could be keeping out good games that just don't have much capital. 

What about a system similar to pixeljoint where devs submit games and Valve mods maintain a standard level of quality in games they accept. I mean I think the goal from Valve's perspective is to be more hands off, but I think this is what I'd want both as a developer and a steam user. 

king_bobston (Level 9 Boss) @ 2/17/2017 10:07

"Maybe they should also have the price grow with each submission (up to a cap)."

(If there's something stopping devs to create another account, ignore all this )

This would only affect devs who want to build a good reputation, and I'm assuming most of them at least try to produce good quality.


I think devs who are ok with producing junk most likely won't have a big issue creating a new account or even company as long as they can bypass paying a huge fee, since they don't have to worry about losing rep.

So steam would need a way to controll if that new dev company really is a new one or not.


eishiya (Level 4 Deputy) @ 2/17/2017 07:43

Ziska: $500 might stop some joke games, but it won't stop delusional devs who believe they have a product worth buying, like DH. It also won't stop trading card mill games, which will recoup all their costs even if the fee is into the thousands. These last two groups make up a big portion of the crap on Steam. Another significant group is shovelware publishers like Strategy First, which would also likely not feel a hit from a $500 fee.

(The rest is just me musing, feel free to ignore.)

At the same time, a $500 fee will stop lots of small teams who are producing decent games, especially if they live in parts of the world with lower costs of living and wages, for whom the $500 is more like $2000 to an American. Sure, their games can probably recoup those fees just as easily since they're in the same market, but getting that money in the first place is much more difficult, and sometimes impossible (due to financial instability in the country, for example).

That said, I do think it should be higher than $100. The fact that it's per-game rather than per-dev should really help too.

Maybe they should also have the price grow with each submission (up to a cap). For legitimate devs this should not be an issue since they should see their revenue grow with each game, since their past games will likely have long tails, and they'd be building up their reputations and skills. I'm not sure about this one though, since though this is developer-friendly, publishers would hit this cap very quickly, possibly before they see the revenue from their games. This would discourage publishers from putting their catalogues on Steam, and Valve wouldn't want that. Giving publishers bulk discounts would be too easy to abuse.

DatMuffinMan (Level 4 Mercenary) @ 2/15/2017 00:12

holy moly ty for posting that link xD

Zizka (Level 10 Operative) @ 2/14/2017 04:15

It all depends how much of an entrance fee Steam Direct asks for. If it's 100 bucks again, it won't stop shovelware. If it's 500$, people will certainly think twice before submitting something like Slaughtering Grounds.

greenraven (Level 1 Gangster) @ 2/11/2017 20:31

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Where will I get my shoddy piss poor flash games now?!

I guess Digital Homicide will be remembered for something after all. They were the David that put down Steam's massive Goliath.

CritiqueMyWork (Level 7 Captain) @ 2/11/2017 08:56

Toastman must be happy.

Lakelezz (Level 1 Depressed) @ 2/11/2017 03:13

RIP Steam Greenlight: http://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/558846854614253751



Aureliano (Level 5 Assistant Manager) @ 2/11/2017 02:07

So I reinstalled Grafx2 but it seems to be loading up/ running fine, but not visible when I click on the icon- only visible in the Task View window: has anyone got any advice?

king_bobston (Level 9 Boss) @ 2/11/2017 01:55



to me the single diagonal pixels look distracting even at x1.


I would guess the effect of it looking different has to do with the dark green looking more like it's own area if it's zoomed in instead of the edge of the light green but I'm not sure

king_bobston (Level 9 Boss) @ 2/11/2017 01:49

Just to clarify, I don't see any problem with asking if someone knows about jal's wereabouts, like jal does himself (I haven't seen him go beyond that).

I also don't see a problem when you call him or visit him if he gave you his address or phone number himself at some point (I would count it as giving it out himself if it would be included in his profile).

skeddles (Level 11 Psychopath) @ 2/10/2017 16:29


this grassy road looks dope at 1x and stupid zoomed in

Zizka (Level 10 Operative) @ 2/10/2017 13:24

It's a matter of interpretation, king. If you disappeared and people tried to get in touch, you'd consider that an invasion of your privacy if they did certain things. For others, me included, it would be perceived as concern. It's fine if he's left the community, just to know that he's ok would be a relief. 

I feel like you're pushing the privacy thing too far but different strokes for different folks. To each's own.

Reo (Level 11 Sensei) @ 2/10/2017 13:19

He is but he's been less active latlely. And I agree with Cure that Jal would understand, I've seen him worried about other regulars dissapearing himself before.We've known him for over a decade and he has always been a caring and positive presence. Just want to see if he is alright, just like he has looked out for others before. 

dpixel (Level 9 Vice President) @ 2/10/2017 12:41

Very true.  Also concerned.  Just doesn't seem like him.  Is he still a mod?

cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 2/10/2017 11:36

I don't think anyone is really worried about the administration of the site, just curious about his whereabouts.

CritiqueMyWork (Level 7 Captain) @ 2/10/2017 09:38

Can this website survive (for now) without him? In economics and administrative terms.

king_bobston (Level 9 Boss) @ 2/10/2017 08:21

I disagree based on the point that he himself seems to seperate his private live and online live a lot and that it was offered to share his possible address with anyone who lives close to check on him.

It's of course dependand how well you know each other, I don't mean to invalidate anyones personal feelings but if he has kept his identity secret, chances are that this is the way he wants it to be and once revealed he can't go back.

If you have personal contact information directly from him all I said wouldn't have any base anymore of course.

But yeah, if it's not his information then it doesn't really matter what we think. Just wanted to share my reasoning in case you're interested. Maybe I'm just overly sensitive with that topic.

On a more lighthearted but still related note I did this.

greenraven (Level 1 Gangster) @ 2/10/2017 07:53

You did, you really really did. Clearly you didn't hear about the jackass we elected as dicktator president. See?

This whole thing with jal is and isn't stalkery. It's a fine gray blurry line.

Also no word from him. I even pushed the speed-dial button. He probably just doesn't want to deal with people right now.

cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 2/10/2017 07:09

There's nothing legally questionable about reaching out to someone you've been friends with for over a decade. As discussed earlier, the phone numbers (and likely address) don't lead back to jal anyway, and I for one think he would be touched to know the community cared enough about him to reach out, even and especially if he is absent due to stressful personal issues. There's no reasonable argument for this being "stalking" or harassment, though I agree driving to his house and knocking on he door would be a bit too invasive (you won't find a working address or a willing local though so it's not really an issue).

At any rate, there's not much more we can do at this point other than wait for jal to return and try not to obsess with worst-case scenarios.

king_bobston (Level 9 Boss) @ 2/10/2017 06:27

Privacy is usually protected by law, although I don't know how far privacy protection in the US is going.

As far as I can see it we're using information we didn't got from jal himself, which at least here is legally questionable and even if it's legally ok in the US, at least I think we shouldn't interfere with jal's private live.

It should be his choice what information he shares with us and what not.

DawnBringer (Level 10 Maniac) @ 2/10/2017 05:37

I must have missed the executive order where reality was declared a safe-space!? 

king_bobston (Level 9 Boss) @ 2/10/2017 05:23

You missed the point.

I'm worried as well and I never said jal is "anyone" but that doesn't justify stalking him or reaching into his private live.

Whatever the reasons are that we aren't informed about his wereabouts it doesn't justify invading his privacy.

When someone has information about why he is absent I'm sure they would've shared them by now or have a good reason not to and however you feel about it we should respect that.

Zizka (Level 10 Operative) @ 2/10/2017 04:12

But Jal isn't "anyone" from the community. He's been around for ages and has established relationships with a lot of people here. Being worried about him is only natural. 

I also find it odd he would vanish without a word. 

king_bobston (Level 9 Boss) @ 2/10/2017 02:32

I don't know about jal but when someone I don't personally know knocks at my door or gives me multiple phone calls because they are worried about my absence from an online community it would freak me out a bit.

While the information is availble he hasn't shared his address or phone number here so this is getting a bit stalky..

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