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Title: Desert Monster
Pixel Artist: AngelOTG  (Level 1 Rookie :: 737 points)
Posted: 4/28/2012 08:32
Palette: 8 colors
Statistics:  66 comments    17 faves    0 avatars

Some kind of monster from the desert. Uses only colors from the MS Paint default palette.

I have been asked why I pixel such large things when they could easily be done smaller. It's because I use a Wacom tablet to do the initial sketch and it is annoying to make small strokes. I also do it because it annoys people in the pixel art community and I enjoy that.

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Different55 (Level 2 Dealer) @ 2/10/2014 14:18

That's stupid. Your art looks great, there's no reason it should have been removed.  


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/25/2012 13:49

 Eviscerate the proletariat!


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ParkerBabyDiaperCompany (Level 2 Peon) @ 5/25/2012 11:25

fight the power


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/23/2012 21:09

 They decided it's not pixel art because I didn't AA the lines


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philippejugnet (Level 6 Hitman) @ 5/23/2012 08:11

 what's wrong with this one?


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/22/2012 20:23

 i50.tinypic.com/osy9ms.png


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OCEANSCENTED (Level 3 Enforcer) @ 5/22/2012 18:46

I agree with orange08, can you post a link for it in the description?


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/19/2012 13:43

 ...you win this time.


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Mathias (Level 6 Yonkyu) @ 5/19/2012 12:26

http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/images/smilies/jackson.gif


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/18/2012 21:03

 He cared enough to report it. :) But it's okay, stirring controversy is a sign of good art.


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Mathias (Level 6 Yonkyu) @ 5/18/2012 16:51

It was Stephen, he could care less!


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/18/2012 13:27

 Don't flatter yourself. There was only one report that caused this to be removed and it was not by you :)


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Mathias (Level 6 Yonkyu) @ 5/18/2012 10:49

Sweet! Did I start this? Did I? Did I??!?!!

 

Annoying to make small strokes with a wacom . . . whut???  Just  . . . zoom in.


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orange08 (Level 3 Hatchikyu) @ 5/13/2012 16:32

AngelOTG could you post the picture in your description? :)


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ptoing (Level 7 Underboss) @ 5/11/2012 00:27

I did not mean to ridicule you. Also this is more than just simple grammar. "could care less" just makes no sense when you look at what people WANT to express. 


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st0ven (Level 2 Dealer) @ 5/10/2012 18:35

ptoing. ive seen it already. its funny. i agree. i usually get it right. is it worth ridiculing so publicly? if i ran around as nazi english grammar slayer i probably would have little time for anything else in my life.


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ptoing (Level 7 Underboss) @ 5/10/2012 16:28

st0ven: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw 


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st0ven (Level 2 Dealer) @ 5/2/2012 07:47

I can see that your comment was in response to my post - im sorry to disappoint you, but i had nothing to do with the removal of your gallery piece. By the time i had finished writing up a critique to it, it was already taken down. I could care less what you do or dont do, so try to refrain from playing the victim card in response to my posts in the future. All i was trying to do was present a list of ways that you could have improved on your piece since you were rather open about your lack of motivation or patience to do so yourself.


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DawnBringer (Level 10 Maniac) @ 5/2/2012 07:14

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark...  


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Lóng (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/2/2012 05:40

 You're acting like there is a clear definition of what is pixel art and what isn't, I haven't encountered such and highly doubt I ever will.

Also its very interesting to see how some members get away with scribbly stuff while others' pieces get suddenly taken down .


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/2/2012 05:01

Actually, if you read his comment, he clearly states it was removed because it wasn't as completed as it needed to be (by his standards, not mine). It was indeed pixel art. Nice try, but again you've proven hilariously ignorant. :)


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-DE- (Level 11 General) @ 5/2/2012 03:36

It was removed because it's not pixel art. This gallery is for pixel art only.


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 5/1/2012 15:52

The piece gets praise and favorites from the community,  makes it into the gallery and eventually to the top of the Weekly Showcase, but because *you* don't like it you remove it? How ignorant.


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st0ven (Level 2 Dealer) @ 5/1/2012 08:08

when i first looked at it, i thought, "mum -ra?" but i realized he had no wrappings so that couldnt be the case.

Look, ive read the thread below. i understand both perspectives. So if you want this to be treated as a pixel piece, then my response to it is still on the side of "meh, its ok". The lines arent particularly clean, nor are they even shaped how they should be in certain places which make them look unfinished and random. The line weighting to my eyes is seriously misjudged and it gives no relief to the eye. the cloth looks 'thick' while the face looks thin. If you are creating a lineart dependent piece in any medium, the quality and consistency of the lines throughout are going to be key.

Id like to see way more depth to this piece and as it stands theres some disappointment to be had in that department. Id expect the cloth to be casting some shadow on the face, and if youre going with such a strong black line approach, id expect half the face to be covered in it as well. without it, it looks like the cloth is just sort of paperdolled on the face as it were. The highlights used on the face IMO are largely useless, as theres no other indication of such subtle ambience anywhere else in the illustration.

Also id at least expect a chain or something to be holding up the neck medallion thing. right now it looks like its just floating. also too brightly lit for its angle.

Ultimately i think its nice to look at, but theres certainly room for some improvement.


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blueleds (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/30/2012 18:15

 Nice style!


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/30/2012 17:26

 iLkke's piece hasn't even been active for a full day. And pieces are added to the Weekly Showcase based on the ratings and number of favorites from users, not staff... so it's not like I have a positive bias from the staff working for me or something. :\


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snowk (Level 7 Mass Murderer) @ 4/30/2012 17:20

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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/30/2012 14:03

 @Elk The partial AA is because I started to AA, but after about 2 mintues I decided to stop. I agree about the lighting, especially on the gold tablet on his chest and his teeth.


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/30/2012 14:01

 @DE I quoted "proper" as a laugh at your linear view of pixel art. If you dislike my personality then I suggest you stop commenting? That would certainly alleviate you of my rebuttals. Also, don't call me man. I'm not a man and even if I was I would not want you refer to me with such a friendly term.


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Elk (Level 5 Assistant Manager) @ 4/30/2012 12:39

Not much effort shown, it doesn't qualify as "large thing" in my eyes :)...

 

The lighting could be done a bit better and your partial AA in certain places makes no sense or you didn't even AA it

The topic itself isn't bad, reminds me of

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg814/scaled.php?server=814&filename=clashofthetitans.jpg&res=landing


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TypeVision (Level 2 Flatfoot) @ 4/30/2012 11:48

 LOL! MASTER!


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-DE- (Level 11 General) @ 4/30/2012 10:59

Man, your attitude is so infantile (you went as far as changing the description to give your opponents the middle finger) it hurts. You admit yourself that you "use a tablet and it is annoying to make small strokes". But that's precisely what pixel art is about, small strokes, the smallest ones that a display can capture! You're also saying that your style can develop into proper pixel art, which can only mean it is not pixel art RIGHT NOW and you're aware of this, yet keep posting these kind of drawings here!

 

And please, don't attempt to deconstruct and redefine the definition of pixel art, since it's painfully obvious you know nil about it. It's not a matter of style, it's a matter of execution. Realistic pixel art can coexist with anime style, news at eleven!

 

Look, keep your little scribbles up, I don't care, but, man, you're one obnoxious human being, you know that? Your first impression is terrible.


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Voltali obscur (Level 9 Boss) @ 4/30/2012 09:02

It somehow reminds me of Hellboy comics (probably due to the black contrasted parts), i really like it!


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/30/2012 08:55

 @DawnBringer Thank you so much. o___o It means a lot coming from you. You're one of my favorite artists here! :)

@Long I might try that when I have some free time. :)

@Connor Really? It's fairly interesting that you say pixel art has a "unique" appeal when there are so many styles in it. Look at Fool's painterly style, iLlke's blocky and geometric style, Syosa's colorful anime sprite style, the many isometric styles (from realism to complete fantasy), the hyper realism of Jaeden's landscapes and portraitures. Pixel art is NOT a bland, homogenized style of computer graphics. There are as many ways to do it as you want. I'm definiely not saying I'm anywhere near the levels of expertise as the artists I've mentioned, but who is to say this can't develop into a "proper" pixel art style with enough practice?


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vampireslug (Level 5 Detective) @ 4/30/2012 07:48

Personally, I like somewhat "chunky" pixels and AA has its place but it's not always neccessarily needed.  AA can give a very photo-realistic look at times but I like looking at a piece and seeing the pixels, the "bones" of the piece as it were.  I'm sure I'll get blasted for this opinion but there you go...


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_Connor (Level 5 Assistant Manager) @ 4/30/2012 07:42

like De said, spin it however you want, the fact remains this could have been accomplished in any other artstyle (vector) and would look better, due to it's size. Pixel arts unique appeal cannot be accomplished with other styles, thus defining it as such.


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Lóng (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/30/2012 05:26

 How about AA-ing just the black strokes against the light red using the dark red?


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DawnBringer (Level 10 Maniac) @ 4/30/2012 01:56

No need to fight. This is def. not Oekaki but it is a bit on the big side for pixelart. As an image grows larger the importance of the individual pixels and their placements diminish. However in this image the lines are so clean and elegant that they still demonstrate pixel-level control and artistery. But please don't go bigger in the future ;)


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Joe/Wrath Designs (Level 7 Sheriff) @ 4/30/2012 01:42

 Nice work!


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/29/2012 10:55

 Well when this piece (and my older one in the same style, which has been active for 2 years) is removed from the gallery, you can say something. Until then, this has been approved and you have no grounds for saying this should be removed other than your misguided OPINION. Thank you.


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-DE- (Level 11 General) @ 4/29/2012 10:50

Believe it or not, but PJ staff are humans and make mistakes. There have been many instances of pictures being recalled on grounds of not being pixel art, even though someone had first accepted them.

 

And no, an opinion cannot be flawed, logic can. The only flawed thing here is your definition of oekaki, at least its extended definition that makes it clear how it differs from pixel art, a discussion we had so many times around here it's been done to death. Launching Paint and redrawing a sketch on a full screen canvas is not pixel art, no matter how you spin it. Sure, every single pixel artist here who does traditional art could start going your route and pixelize their drawings to post here. You know why they don't do it? Because that wouldn't be pixel art, just like your piece. Just because you went and cleaned up your lines a bit doesn't magically make it pixel art.


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/29/2012 09:50

 No, I know it was not approved by me. I know it was approved by the people of this community that acknowledge this as PIXEL ART. Which is exactly what it is. If the members and staff did not agree, it would not have been approved. And yet here it stands.

Oekaki is scribble. There is no precision to it. When I was finished with the sketch, I went in and placed every single pixel by hand. I edited each individual pixel to give it a precise look. Oekaki does not feature the control that I do in my lines. AA would probably improve the quality, I agree, but it doesn't change the style.

In the end, you're more than welcome to have a flawed opinion. But my art will stay here.


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-DE- (Level 11 General) @ 4/29/2012 09:27

You're talking like it was you who approved it, and yet you're the author. Now THAT'S interesting.

 

But since you know full well this is not pixel art, but oekaki, why did you submit it to PixelJoint in the first place? And why do you not remove it now and post it somewhere it belongs, like dA?


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/29/2012 08:38

 And yet it made it into the gallery. Interesting.


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-DE- (Level 11 General) @ 4/29/2012 08:37

This is oekaki, not pixel art. deviantArt is that way.


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AngelOTG (Level 1 Rookie) @ 4/29/2012 08:35

@ui Good idea, I didn't think to draw while zoomed in. :P


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Yielmo (Level 4 Lieutenant) @ 4/29/2012 06:41

 Love it.


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SacreDoom (Level 2 Dealer) @ 4/29/2012 05:17

 I don't think the bright orange colour on the face is neccesary.


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King of Games (Level 1 Thug) @ 4/29/2012 00:42

No AA :(


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_Connor (Level 5 Assistant Manager) @ 4/29/2012 00:27

 It's almost as though you came here looking for an argument. You could have no mentioned the size to begi nwith, and ignored those who quiestioned it. Instead you pointed it out to us and made a deal about it. lol




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