Wip for ...Orun Juleus...

WIP:


Sorry, this is off topic,
In the Challenge Prizes section of the original posts on challenge threads, there's the line:

"Top finisher gets to call the following week's challenge...sweet"

How do mods actually contact you, or what have you.

Hey, this looks like a game that actually could work. I'd play with the colours, perhaps change the white to red. The colour red already plays well with santas red theme and rooftops tiles are generally brown-ish colours(where I live at least)so red would make sense. I'd make the blue darker to really make the red really stand out or if you keep the white that would stand out more to.

Also try thinking of this image as 3 dimensional, make use of dither and other techniques to convey shapes with shodows etc.

I'm a beginner at pixel art, so can you do title screens or does that not count as a mockup?

How does that answer his question?
Any part of the game we're gonna pixel will be part of a game, and not the game itself. The challenge isn't to create a game.
I don't have a definitive answer, but I assume it's fine, just have something that makes it obviously a title screen and not a logo, like START with a flashing triangle or something.

Here's my WIP :)

philippejugnet, well thats debatable. What separates your example from a game is that the title screen is programmed with the game in mind, where as a website represents the path to the game. A game designer would also argue that the title screens holds as much importance as the gameplay as it can be used to portray certain aspects of the game. For one the name of the game, perhaps the main playable character(s), as well as options to enhance the performance of the game and many other features.

But in terms of the competition thats for administrators to decide upon.

oh and read the rules:
Create a mockup of an original two colour game.


I have a question too. Are we allowed to have multiple mockups in one challenge submission i.e. The title screen, two or three screens of gameplay, a game over screen, menu navigation screens, level select screen.

Edited by Jim16 - 19 December 2011 at 9:57am

That analogy is rather poor, but this isn't really something worth arguing about.

However, consider this, you have a SNES cartridge, you put it in your SNES, you get a few screens about copyright and stuff, which is present in all games, then you get a title screen which is exclusive to the game, it's interactive, with options such as: new game, continue game etc. etc.

For example, here's the title screen from super mario world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C6b7IUiHh4

I can't see how you decide that this isn't part of a game.

>The competition is not about game title screen it is about the game itself. I think the title screen is a mixture of a hook to the game and a game menu.

There is no meaningful distinction between a game menu and a game level when it comes to being a game or not. If I load up basically any game, the first thing that happens, is that a title screen loads. a mockup just shows some part of a proposed game, a title screen is as valid as anything else, in my opinion at least. I think it's nonsensical to deny an entry on those grounds, but I suppose it's up to the admins, as previously stated.
 


Edited by CPearson - 19 December 2011 at 10:05am

A title screen is part of the game, you seem to have the notion that they are mutually exclusive, but I can see no reason why this should logically be so. The challenge does not say "Create a level screen", it doesn't say "don't create a title screen".

A title screen is part of a game, it depicts the theme of the game, and is as important as anything else, seeing as it;s the first thing people see, it's as simple as that.

(This is getting pedantic, but when it comes down to it, if you insist that the guy can't make his mockup, which I think would be totally valid, that's discouraging someone from trying to be creative, not a good thing to do in my opinion)

Edit: Can anyone fill me in about the thing I asked in my first post in this thread, seeing as my piece won the Collosal Cave Anniversary Challenge, and I'm not sure how the challenge theme suggestion is made (sorry again for offtopic).


Edited by CPearson - 19 December 2011 at 10:16am

CPearson, Have a word with Jeremy or any other admin and I'm sure they'll be more than eager to sort a future challenge for you.

"A title screen is the initial screen of a computer, video, or arcade game after the credits and logos are displayed of the game developer and game publisher. Earlier title screens often included all the game options available (single player, multiplayer, configuration of controls, etc.) while modern games have opted for the title screen to serve as a splash page. The reason for this can be attributed to the use of the title screen as a loading screen, in which to cache all the graphical elements of the main menu. Older computer and video games had relatively simple menu screens, that often featured pre-rendered artwork. In arcade games, the title screen is shown as part of the attract mode loop, usually after a game demonstration is played. The title screen, as well as the high score list, urges potential players to insert coins. In video games, especially if the screen is not merged with the main menu, the screen urges the player to press start. Similarly, in computer games, the message "Hit any key" is often displayed. With the lack of an actual "Start" button, the Nintendo Wii uses a different prompt, usually pressing the "A" button and the "B" trigger simultaneously, as in Wii Sports or The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.
Fan-made games often parody the style of basis of the creation.
The information listed on a title screen includes:
Game developer
Game publisher
Release date
Registered trademarks
Game logo
Additional pre-rendered artwork
Miscellaneous licensing information.
"

-Wikipedia

as the book cover is to attract you, the title screen is also. If I tell you to write a book, you will not do just the cover, and if I tell you to do a cover, you will not write a book. Right?

thats what I mean, this is not about if the title screen is part of the game or it not, it is about doing the game ( book ) not title screen ( cover ). And sorry for my eager it is because you are messing things up.

"
The information listed on a title screen includes:
Game developer
Game publisher
Release date
Registered trademarks
Game logo
Additional pre-rendered artwork
Miscellaneous licensing information. "
-Wikipedia

I don't think that's what they wan't,do you?

philippejugnet, We both get what your getting to. We've both chosen to disagree with you while listing to your opinion. Nobody is saying your wrong or that we are right.

My suggestion is to agree to disagree and allow administrators to make a sensible edit to the rules to justify as what could be a vague challenge description. No harm done and we all will know what is allowed and whats not shortly.

Cpearsons arguments are logical to me and his figures of speech, grammar and vocabulary don't matter and are a lot better than yours. But thats beside the point, your being rude now.

The challenge rules do not dictate any of what you say. If there are people who want to show their creativity by showing their own interpretations of the rules, then who are you to say its wrong. That alone falls to administration, and if you continue to feed a fire I will report you.

Leave it be.

Edited by Jim16 - 19 December 2011 at 11:08am

What are the oblong shapes in the bottom left and right?

Create a mockup of an original two colour game.

Anyone care to help me with a running animation for my guy?




Edited by CPearson - 19 December 2011 at 12:09pm

The little guy reminds me of Bit.Trip.Runner

Edited by Mhyre - 19 December 2011 at 12:12pm

Maybe give it a background, but it's your decision, it looks cool anyway!

I was thinking on a animation, what do you think?



Edited by philippejugnet - 19 December 2011 at 1:54pm

A challenge mockup usually does not include the title screen. Possible exception is when you're allowed to do more than one screen (Looking back, the only challenge which allowed a title screen made them compulsory)

philippejugnet did not invent Minecraft for this challenge.

Last pic


Maybe I will add some frames this week

Another Update on Paper Cowboy:

I'm making a shootemup. A tile based one, similar to what I did with the squidfish crusade thing, only vertical and 2 color and scrolling and stuff. Inspired by Fleet, the last level of Tyrian :)

Here's an early preview:



Edited by Mrmo Tarius - 20 December 2011 at 5:25am